tvor
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Post by tvor on Jul 23, 2024 12:52:27 GMT
I have no issue with the ones that really do want to work and pay their way. What I don't understand is why benefits are paid to illegal immigrants, who also get accommodation, food, heating with no questions asked whilst so many Brits and indeed people who have fought for this country who remain homeless get very little support. It's OK saying that Labour will sort it. That, along with about twenty other grand plans. Where's all the money coming from ? Remember Gordon Brown took us to the brink of bankruptcy when Labour were last in. Fun fact: The national debt is three times higher than it was when Gordon Brown left office 14 years ago. I will take the opportunity to reply. I take it that you have not heard about the China Virus that we have all just been through. Who do you think paid for all that? I was paid Furlough payment for months to do nothing. It was like being a council worker. Who paid to support businesses financially up and down the country? There have also been the co-ordinated strikes up and down the country organised and supported by the Labour party. The sight of Labour MP's on picket lines was ridiculous. On and last but not least the illegal war that Putin started. That has cost businesses, it raised oil and gas prices, destabilised markets and cost the UK millions. There are plenty of vitriolic posts on here about the likes of Trump, Farage, Boris, Truss, Sunak and the like. Not much is posted about Putin and what a **** he is. I wonder why that is.
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Post by rreckless on Jul 23, 2024 12:56:08 GMT
Fun fact: The national debt is three times higher than it was when Gordon Brown left office 14 years ago. I will take the opportunity to reply. I take it that you have not heard about the China Virus that we have all just been through. Who do you think paid for all that? I was paid Furlough payment for months to do nothing. It was like being a council worker. Who paid to support businesses financially up and down the country? There have also been the co-ordinated strikes up and down the country organised and supported by the Labour party. The sight of Labour MP's on picket lines was ridiculous. On and last but not least the illegal war that Putin started. That has cost businesses, it raised oil and gas prices, destabilised markets and cost the UK millions. There are plenty of vitriolic posts on here about the likes of Trump, Farage, Boris, Truss, Sunak and the like. Not much is posted about Putin and what a **** he is. I wonder why that is. You know that National debt was rising before any of that under the tories too, yes? Oh and it went up despite years of Austerity. As for not much posted about Putin, that's probably because he's not really part of UK politics. Big Nige is a fan though.
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Post by Count de Stockport on Jul 23, 2024 12:57:01 GMT
Don't talk such sense RH. It doesn't go down well with people like tvor. Now, now, stop throwing insults around. Only the most sensitive little snowflake would find that insulting. You're such a beta
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Post by Nik on Jul 23, 2024 13:00:06 GMT
I will take the opportunity to reply. I take it that you have not heard about the China Virus that we have all just been through. Who do you think paid for all that? I was paid Furlough payment for months to do nothing. It was like being a council worker. Who paid to support businesses financially up and down the country? There have also been the co-ordinated strikes up and down the country organised and supported by the Labour party. The sight of Labour MP's on picket lines was ridiculous. On and last but not least the illegal war that Putin started. That has cost businesses, it raised oil and gas prices, destabilised markets and cost the UK millions. There are plenty of vitriolic posts on here about the likes of Trump, Farage, Boris, Truss, Sunak and the like. Not much is posted about Putin and what a **** he is. I wonder why that is. [img src="//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/embarrassed.png" class="smile" style="max-width:100%;" alt=" "] You know that National debt was rising before any of that under the tories too, yes? Oh and it went up despite years of Austerity. As for not much posted about Putin, that's probably because he's not really part of UK politics. Big Nige is a fan though. Yep. It was already, at best, £300bn higher before COVID than it was when Brown left office.
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Post by rreckless on Jul 23, 2024 13:00:58 GMT
Also calling COVID the "China virus" isn't great
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Post by David Schofield on Jul 23, 2024 13:01:54 GMT
Fun fact: The national debt is three times higher than it was when Gordon Brown left office 14 years ago. I will take the opportunity to reply. I take it that you have not heard about the China Virus that we have all just been through. Who do you think paid for all that? I was paid Furlough payment for months to do nothing. It was like being a council worker. Who paid to support businesses financially up and down the country? There have also been the co-ordinated strikes up and down the country organised and supported by the Labour party. The sight of Labour MP's on picket lines was ridiculous. On and last but not least the illegal war that Putin started. That has cost businesses, it raised oil and gas prices, destabilised markets and cost the UK millions. There are plenty of vitriolic posts on here about the likes of Trump, Farage, Boris, Truss, Sunak and the like. Not much is posted about Putin and what a **** he is. I wonder why that is. Rishi Sunak’s answer to rising fuel prices was to give the fuel companies a green light to raise prices to any level they saw fit (and take just a small slice of it back) Not only did that increase the cost of heating our homes and businesses but it increased the cost of everything and in doing so he massively increased inflation See what France did? What every other European country did..? The told the fuel companies “you can go x% higher, no more, or we nationalise you” Tories think about profit before people, well f*ck that
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Post by hedleyverity on Jul 23, 2024 13:05:52 GMT
Fun fact: The national debt is three times higher than it was when Gordon Brown left office 14 years ago. I will take the opportunity to reply. I take it that you have not heard about the China Virus that we have all just been through. Who do you think paid for all that? I was paid Furlough payment for months to do nothing. It was like being a council worker. Who paid to support businesses financially up and down the country? There have also been the co-ordinated strikes up and down the country organised and supported by the Labour party. The sight of Labour MP's on picket lines was ridiculous. On and last but not least the illegal war that Putin started. That has cost businesses, it raised oil and gas prices, destabilised markets and cost the UK millions. There are plenty of vitriolic posts on here about the likes of Trump, Farage, Boris, Truss, Sunak and the like. Not much is posted about Putin and what a **** he is. I wonder why that is. :-[ There are lots of reasons the national debt has increased, it’s increased without the country going bankrupt, therefore Gordon Brown did not leave the country on the brink of bankruptcy.
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Post by bigmartin on Jul 23, 2024 13:06:28 GMT
Now, now, stop throwing insults around. Only the most sensitive little snowflake would find that insulting. You're such a beta Another hypocrite to. Can dish it out but not take it. Very much a right wing disease. Such snowflakes.
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Post by Nik on Jul 23, 2024 13:06:47 GMT
Fun fact: The national debt is three times higher than it was when Gordon Brown left office 14 years ago. I will take the opportunity to reply. I take it that you have not heard about the China Virus that we have all just been through. Who do you think paid for all that? I was paid Furlough payment for months to do nothing. It was like being a council worker. Who paid to support businesses financially up and down the country? There have also been the co-ordinated strikes up and down the country organised and supported by the Labour party. The sight of Labour MP's on picket lines was ridiculous. On and last but not least the illegal war that Putin started. That has cost businesses, it raised oil and gas prices, destabilised markets and cost the UK millions. There are plenty of vitriolic posts on here about the likes of Trump, Farage, Boris, Truss, Sunak and the like. Not much is posted about Putin and what a **** he is. I wonder why that is. "I will take the opportunity to reply because I think I've got a good point (even though I haven't) but I definitely don't read your posts"
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Post by bigmartin on Jul 23, 2024 13:11:05 GMT
Fun fact: The national debt is three times higher than it was when Gordon Brown left office 14 years ago. I will take the opportunity to reply. I take it that you have not heard about the China Virus that we have all just been through. Who do you think paid for all that? I was paid Furlough payment for months to do nothing. It was like being a council worker. Who paid to support businesses financially up and down the country? There have also been the co-ordinated strikes up and down the country organised and supported by the Labour party. The sight of Labour MP's on picket lines was ridiculous. On and last but not least the illegal war that Putin started. That has cost businesses, it raised oil and gas prices, destabilised markets and cost the UK millions. There are plenty of vitriolic posts on here about the likes of Trump, Farage, Boris, Truss, Sunak and the like. Not much is posted about Putin and what a **** he is. I wonder why that is.
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Post by bigmartin on Jul 23, 2024 13:13:04 GMT
I will take the opportunity to reply. I take it that you have not heard about the China Virus that we have all just been through. Who do you think paid for all that? I was paid Furlough payment for months to do nothing. It was like being a council worker. Who paid to support businesses financially up and down the country? There have also been the co-ordinated strikes up and down the country organised and supported by the Labour party. The sight of Labour MP's on picket lines was ridiculous. On and last but not least the illegal war that Putin started. That has cost businesses, it raised oil and gas prices, destabilised markets and cost the UK millions. There are plenty of vitriolic posts on here about the likes of Trump, Farage, Boris, Truss, Sunak and the like. Not much is posted about Putin and what a **** he is. I wonder why that is. There are lots of reasons the national debt has increased, it’s increased without the country going bankrupt, therefore Gordon Brown did not leave the country on the brink of bankruptcy. Interesting reality, only something acknowledged by the right wing when conservatives are in control - the UK cannot go bankrupt.
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Post by David Schofield on Jul 23, 2024 13:18:41 GMT
You know that National debt was rising before any of that under the tories too, yes? Oh and it went up despite years of Austerity. As for not much posted about Putin, that's probably because he's not really part of UK politics. Big Nige is a fan though. Yep. It was already, at best, £300bn higher before COVID than it was when Brown left office. The national debt when Brown left office was £1,080,000,000 The national debt in 2019/20 (pre-Covid) was £1,835,200,000 The national debt when Rishi Sunak left was £2,740,000,000
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Post by bigmartin on Jul 23, 2024 13:19:32 GMT
Also calling COVID the "China virus" isn't great Agreed. I wouldn't suggest, or seek that anyone be banned for racist online tropes on this website. But I'd like the moderators to perhaps issue a gentle reminder of the forum rules. We debate, sometimes heatedly on here, and often discuss the tone of the board. And sometimes some people (ahem...points fingers at ones self) veer close to the line and I'm sure also across it. With a tacit acceptance that if a strike comes our way then they're big enough and ugly enough to accept it. TVOR. With the best of intentions and wishes in the world tone it down pal. Just a tad. Don't change, just remove the racist rhetoric please.
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Post by bigmartin on Jul 23, 2024 13:22:49 GMT
Yep. It was already, at best, £300bn higher before COVID than it was when Brown left office. The national debt when Brown left office was £1,080,000,000 The national debt in 2019/20 (pre-Covid) was £1,835,200,000 The national debt when Rishi Sunak left was £2,740,000,000 Conservative rule #1. The National Debt is only a talking point when conservatives are not in control of the national finances.
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Mozzer
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Post by Mozzer on Jul 23, 2024 13:25:37 GMT
You're still bothering. Stop bothering.
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