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Jul 3, 2020 7:53:25 GMT
Post by stockytwo on Jul 3, 2020 7:53:25 GMT
Ghislaine Maxwell arrested today. Could open a can of worms... She will deffo mysteriously commit suicide in prison
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Jul 3, 2020 8:13:05 GMT
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Post by CB1883 on Jul 3, 2020 8:13:05 GMT
Surely a country the size of the US can come up with a higher calibre of political leaders than both Trump & Biden? They’re both as bad as each other They're not, and it's not even close. In a nutshell, Trump and his puppeteers seek to bring down the republic, destroy the democratic process, trample on the Constitution, especially the checks and balances, mould a partisan judiciary and install a permanent oligarchy, never mind his manifest appalling flaws and actions. He is far worse than just "idiotic" and "divisive" - that's doing him a huge favour. Biden makes stupid gaffes, and that statement was the latest in a long line. It was clumsy and insulting and patronizing but intended to highlight Trump's overt disdain for people of colour, and he apologized. It's not Biden trying to incite racial conflict. The difference is Trump doesn’t give a hoot who he offends as I think his ego makes him believe every opinion he has is fact and no matter who he’ll come up against he’ll come out on top. Probably comes from a life with the amount of money where you pretty much get whatever you want. Biden’s advisors were probably the ones that told him to apologise and it was probably a pre-written statement done by someone else that he used.
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Jul 3, 2020 8:37:36 GMT
Post by timberwolf on Jul 3, 2020 8:37:36 GMT
Ghislaine Maxwell arrested today. Could open a can of worms... She will deffo mysteriously commit suicide in prison sounds like you are another in my cynic club.
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Post by bigmartin on Jul 3, 2020 12:52:15 GMT
She will deffo mysteriously commit suicide in prison sounds like you are another in my cynic club. A large part of me hopes they kill her and that she sees it coming from start to finish. Then, when the last moments of life exit her body she can think hard about what she did and the kind of people she did it for. May all extraordinarily entitled and affluent people who think they can get away with stuff like this end in a similarly appropriate way.
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Jul 3, 2020 16:13:51 GMT
Post by Fez on Jul 3, 2020 16:13:51 GMT
They're not, and it's not even close. In a nutshell, Trump and his puppeteers seek to bring down the republic, destroy the democratic process, trample on the Constitution, especially the checks and balances, mould a partisan judiciary and install a permanent oligarchy, never mind his manifest appalling flaws and actions. He is far worse than just "idiotic" and "divisive" - that's doing him a huge favour. Biden makes stupid gaffes, and that statement was the latest in a long line. It was clumsy and insulting and patronizing but intended to highlight Trump's overt disdain for people of colour, and he apologized. It's not Biden trying to incite racial conflict. The difference is Trump doesn’t give a hoot who he offends as I think his ego makes him believe every opinion he has is fact and no matter who he’ll come up against he’ll come out on top. Probably comes from a life with the amount of money where you pretty much get whatever you want. Biden’s advisors were probably the ones that told him to apologise and it was probably a pre-written statement done by someone else that he used. While your first sentence is correct, "the difference is" more all the things, and more, that I laid out. Biden's statement was probably drafted by his team, sure, but that's nothing new of any politician; and it's kind of an irrelevant detail amidst the real corruption and treachery in the WH.
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Post by Fez on Jul 3, 2020 16:22:15 GMT
It doesn’t make the mainstream media but Trump has been trying to make everyone aware of what the Clintons, Epstein etc get up to “I’ve known Jeff [Epstein] for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it—Jeffrey enjoys his social life.” Donald Trump, New York Magazine, 2002. [Edit: what Trump has being doing is deflecting, which is a constant tactic. "Accuse the other side of that of which you are guilty."]
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Post by Fez on Jul 3, 2020 16:25:45 GMT
sounds like you are another in my cynic club. A large part of me hopes the kill her and that she sees it coming from start to finish. While I understand that, I would like her to give evidence, name names and open up the whole can of worms.
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Jul 3, 2020 18:18:52 GMT
Post by vicar on Jul 3, 2020 18:18:52 GMT
sounds like you are another in my cynic club. A large part of me hopes they kill her and that she sees it coming from start to finish. Then, when the last moments of life exit her body she can think hard about what she did and the kind of people she did it for. May all extraordinarily entitled and affluent people who think they can get away with stuff like this end in a similarly appropriate way. I've not read the evidence against her or even very much about this case at all but have we all decided she's guilty?
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Post by Mozzer on Jul 3, 2020 18:31:46 GMT
Like everyone, she deserves to be tried fairly. What is out there is unpromising for her.
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Jul 3, 2020 19:25:29 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2020 19:25:29 GMT
BLM the biggest failure that PoC could support. Totally divisive, totally wrong in every way. No facts can prove that black people are killed more than any other colour. A bandwagon that is jumped on by the ignorant and people who play the victim, or white guilt.
The problem is that black people who disagree with the BLM movement receive so much abuse and called uncle Tom's.
Many people of colour do not want the BLM faction to define them.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2020 19:32:03 GMT
A large part of me hopes they kill her and that she sees it coming from start to finish. Then, when the last moments of life exit her body she can think hard about what she did and the kind of people she did it for. May all extraordinarily entitled and affluent people who think they can get away with stuff like this end in a similarly appropriate way. I've not read the evidence against her or even very much about this case at all but have we all decided she's guilty? I recommend the Epstein documentary on Netflix, you will have no doubt of everything she’s done due to the sheer number of victim accounts.
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Post by Imposter on Jul 3, 2020 20:17:47 GMT
BLM the biggest failure that PoC could support. Totally divisive, totally wrong in every way. No facts can prove that black people are killed more than any other colour. A bandwagon that is jumped on by the ignorant and people who play the victim, or white guilt. The problem is that black people who disagree with the BLM movement receive so much abuse and called uncle Tom's. Many people of colour do not want the BLM faction to define them. Absolute nonsense. The facts irrefutably prove that black people are more likely pro-rata to die at the hands of the police than white people. Even when taking into account the percentage of the population that are black, and the numbers of black people that get arrested or have interactions with the police.
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Post by Fez on Jul 3, 2020 20:40:32 GMT
BLM the biggest failure that PoC could support. Totally divisive, totally wrong in every way. No facts can prove that black people are killed more than any other colour. A bandwagon that is jumped on by the ignorant and people who play the victim, or white guilt. The problem is that black people who disagree with the BLM movement receive so much abuse and called uncle Tom's. Many people of colour do not want the BLM faction to define them. I think you're in the wrong thread. Bit of a non-sequitur there. Bit of a pile of horseshit as well, to be honest. I'd love you to come to my neighbourhood and preach all that at, say, the MLK Centre. Were these people, to name a handful, "playing the victim"? Eric Garner Michael Brown Tamir Rice Freddie Gray Sandra Bland Jamar Clark Demarcus Semer Alton Sterling Philando Castile Stephon Clark Elijah McClain Breonna Taylor George Floyd Tony McDade Rayshard Brooks Ahmaud Arbery Charles Kinsey Botham Jean Atatiana Jefferson
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Post by Fez on Jul 3, 2020 20:41:49 GMT
It’s not a great quote from Biden but let’s be honest, the list of slurs from Trump is a lot longer. Biden has massive support among African Americans apparently. Something someone more clued up than me, like Fez, could probably shed some light on. You’re right, it’s a ridiculous quote and if Trump had come out with similar it would have got a lot more negative press. In fact, it got a *lot* of negative press in the US.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2020 20:51:02 GMT
BLM the biggest failure that PoC could support. Totally divisive, totally wrong in every way. No facts can prove that black people are killed more than any other colour. A bandwagon that is jumped on by the ignorant and people who play the victim, or white guilt. The problem is that black people who disagree with the BLM movement receive so much abuse and called uncle Tom's. Many people of colour do not want the BLM faction to define them. I think you're in the wrong thread. Bit of a non-sequitur there. Bit of a pile of horseshit as well, to be honest. I'd love you to come to my neighbourhood and preach all that at, say, the MLK Centre. Were these people, to name a handful, "playing the victim"? Eric Garner Michael Brown Tamir Rice Freddie Gray Sandra Bland Jamar Clark Demarcus Semer Alton Sterling Philando Castile Stephon Clark Elijah McClain Breonna Taylor George Floyd Tony McDade Rayshard Brooks Ahmaud Arbery Botham Jean Atatiana Jefferson I’m going to go out on a limb and guess Padbrat has no knowledge of any of those cases or how BLM ties into it. “A problem in America” will most be likely what he grumbles under his breath. It’s people like this that scare me the most in the world.
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