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Jul 3, 2020 21:01:14 GMT
Post by bigmartin on Jul 3, 2020 21:01:14 GMT
A large part of me hopes they kill her and that she sees it coming from start to finish. Then, when the last moments of life exit her body she can think hard about what she did and the kind of people she did it for. May all extraordinarily entitled and affluent people who think they can get away with stuff like this end in a similarly appropriate way. I've not read the evidence against her or even very much about this case at all but have we all decided she's guilty? We're all human and make judgements. Possibly not a good thing. But, still human nature.
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Post by Nik on Jul 4, 2020 6:57:08 GMT
BLM the biggest failure that PoC could support. Totally divisive, totally wrong in every way. No facts can prove that black people are killed more than any other colour. A bandwagon that is jumped on by the ignorant and people who play the victim, or white guilt. The problem is that black people who disagree with the BLM movement receive so much abuse and called uncle Tom's. Many people of colour do not want the BLM faction to define them. The irony of you calling others ignorant and coming out with that steaming pile of shite is breathtaking.
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Jul 4, 2020 9:48:09 GMT
Post by timberwolf on Jul 4, 2020 9:48:09 GMT
BLM the biggest failure that PoC could support. Totally divisive, totally wrong in every way. No facts can prove that black people are killed more than any other colour. A bandwagon that is jumped on by the ignorant and people who play the victim, or white guilt. The problem is that black people who disagree with the BLM movement receive so much abuse and called uncle Tom's. Many people of colour do not want the BLM faction to define them. The irony of you calling others ignorant and coming out with that steaming pile of shite is breathtaking. or you could look to the far eastern countries where some races get a more raw deal than the BLM brigade get. racism is a worldwide problem and not just a black v white situation that its become.
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Post by bigmartin on Jul 4, 2020 10:52:22 GMT
The irony of you calling others ignorant and coming out with that steaming pile of shite is breathtaking. or you could look to the far eastern countries where some races get a more raw deal than the BLM brigade get. racism is a worldwide problem and not just a black v white situation that its become. Ummmm... so start a protest movement for them if you feel strongly about it. None of which diminishes the fundamental fact, which is that black people haven't generally been tret particularly fairly in this particular country.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Jul 4, 2020 21:52:10 GMT
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Jul 4, 2020 21:55:09 GMT
The irony of you calling others ignorant and coming out with that steaming pile of shite is breathtaking. or you could look to the far eastern countries where some races get a more raw deal than the BLM brigade get. racism is a worldwide problem and not just a black v white situation that its become. You’re quite correct that racism is a worldwide problem. And in our part of the world, and in America, the main victim of systemic racism are black people. So here and in America they, rightly, are the ones who have the movements to improve things. I’m all for fighting racism all over, part of that entails fighting the worst example of it in the countries that we have the most influence in.
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Jul 5, 2020 9:11:15 GMT
Post by timberwolf on Jul 5, 2020 9:11:15 GMT
what happens in this country is far removed from what happens in america. the latter for me could be discribed as one of the most racial intolerant countries in the world. on the whole, while things could be better, this country is miles behind them. look at every single country in the world i would imagine this or that group or race are discriminated against for some reasons and it is not just black folk.
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Post by Nik on Jul 5, 2020 12:10:35 GMT
what happens in this country is far removed from what happens in america. the latter for me could be discribed as one of the most racial intolerant countries in the world. on the whole, while things could be better, this country is miles behind them. look at every single country in the world i would imagine this or that group or race are discriminated against for some reasons and it is not just black folk. You say that and yet this happens to two elite athletes because they're black. Weapons search for no reason with a 3 month old child in the car and they were also accused off-video of their car reeking of weed yet the Police refused to do a drugs test on them when challenged on it. Systematic racism is alive and well in the UK; no point denying it.
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Post by suedehead on Jul 5, 2020 12:50:32 GMT
what happens in this country is far removed from what happens in america. the latter for me could be discribed as one of the most racial intolerant countries in the world. on the whole, while things could be better, this country is miles behind them. look at every single country in the world i would imagine this or that group or race are discriminated against for some reasons and it is not just black folk. You say that and yet this happens to two elite athletes because they're black. Weapons search for no reason with a 3 month old child in the car and they were also accused off-video of their car reeking of weed yet the Police refused to do a drugs test on them when challenged on it. Systematic racism is alive and well in the UK; no point denying it. Cue the ‘if they haven’t done anything wrong, they’ve nothing to worry about’ comments.
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Post by Mozzer on Jul 5, 2020 12:54:17 GMT
what happens in this country is far removed from what happens in america. the latter for me could be discribed as one of the most racial intolerant countries in the world. on the whole, while things could be better, this country is miles behind them. look at every single country in the world i would imagine this or that group or race are discriminated against for some reasons and it is not just black folk. Nik's post is relevant. But either way, I'm not sure what the point is here. It's not enough to say 'We're not as appalling as other places' or 'This sort of shit happens everywhere.' That's just a race to the bottom. I'd agree that as a country, we're not as bad as we were and we're better than many. But that's little consolation if you're one of those still on the receiving end of racist attitudes and behaviours.
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/?vh=e Interesting video from a Trump supporter if you’ve got 10 minutes...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2020 16:30:44 GMT
/?vh=e Interesting video from a Trump supporter if you’ve got 10 minutes... He makes some interesting points. He also makes it very clear he is a christian conservative who loves capitalism and a lot of people like him will vote for whoever the Republican nominee is regardless of what comes out of his mouth. Trump spouts hateful and dangerous language on a daily basis. Take yesterday, 4th of July, a national celebration of America - his message was “we are doing a tremendous job defeating the China virus”. Nothing about uniting people or staying safe or following health guidelines. Just slurs, lies and stoking the fires. At this point, it’s a difference between right and wrong. Anyone with any integrity, empathy or moral fiber shouldn’t be voting for him, end of story.
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Jul 5, 2020 16:56:54 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2020 16:56:54 GMT
Look, we can all produce facts and figures, people can believe the PC progressive agenda which creates a culture of victim hood. However, in 2018 in 88% of murders in the USA where the victim was black, the perpetrator was black. From 1976 - 2005 94% of black Americans murdered were killed by African Americans. Between 1976 - 2014 of the estimated 198,288 African Americans murdered by other African Americans this works out at average of 5,218 deaths annually. This represents circa 19 times more deaths than in confrontations with the police. The biggest killer of black people in the USA is black people, so it's no surprise that black on black crime is the biggest failure that is happening in society. This can't all be the fault of the the white man. www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2019/12/22/the-need-to-discuss-black-on-black-crime/
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Post by Mozzer on Jul 5, 2020 17:04:16 GMT
Look, we can all produce facts and figures, people can believe the PC progressive agenda which creates a culture of victim hood. However, in 2018 in 88% of murders in the USA where the victim was black, the perpetrator was black. From 1976 - 2005 94% of black Americans murdered were killed by African Americans. Between 1976 - 2014 of the estimated 198,288 African Americans murdered by other African Americans this works out at average of 5,218 deaths annually. This represents circa 19 times more deaths than in confrontations with the police. The biggest killer of black people in the USA is black people, so it's no surprise that black on black crime is the biggest failure that is happening in society. This can't all be the fault of the the white man. www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2019/12/22/the-need-to-discuss-black-on-black-crime/No-one is saying it is all the 'fault of the white man'. I'm concerned about the rise of the straw man though.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2020 17:08:11 GMT
Look, we can all produce facts and figures, people can believe the PC progressive agenda which creates a culture of victim hood. However, in 2018 in 88% of murders in the USA where the victim was black, the perpetrator was black. From 1976 - 2005 94% of black Americans murdered were killed by African Americans. Between 1976 - 2014 of the estimated 198,288 African Americans murdered by other African Americans this works out at average of 5,218 deaths annually. This represents circa 19 times more deaths than in confrontations with the police. The biggest killer of black people in the USA is black people, so it's no surprise that black on black crime is the biggest failure that is happening in society. This can't all be the fault of the the white man. www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2019/12/22/the-need-to-discuss-black-on-black-crime/You still don’t understand what the BLM movement stands for do you. Maybe google it?
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