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Post by mustafapoint on Nov 24, 2020 21:06:25 GMT
It's the birth of Jesus.
Going to be interesting how folks are going to go to church on the 24th or 25th. Will it be ticket only?
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Post by Bredburyhatter on Nov 24, 2020 21:29:46 GMT
It's the birth of Jesus. Going to be interesting how folks are going to go to church on the 24th or 25th. Will it be ticket only? Apologise in advance for my ignorance, but isn't Easter considered the most religious day of the year? Sure we were in complete lockdown for Easter this year, and we all managed to get through that. We'll cope with Christmas this year whatever it throws at us.
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Post by mustafapoint on Nov 24, 2020 22:00:29 GMT
If you're a Christian, Easter is supposed to be more important. But Christmas is celebrating the birth of Jesus, without which there would have been no Easter.
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Post by vicar on Nov 24, 2020 22:13:10 GMT
Over 600 deaths today so I'm not sure this is a good idea, same with attending football, we're not getting on top of this.
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Post by mustafapoint on Nov 24, 2020 22:23:14 GMT
With a name like vicar, aren't you in favour of Christmas?
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Post by timberwolf on Nov 25, 2020 9:04:20 GMT
If you're a Christian, Easter is supposed to be more important. But Christmas is celebrating the birth of Jesus, without which there would have been no Easter. and the songs they sing at christmas are miles better. apart from funerals and weddings some who call themselves christians is their only visit to church every year. its the chrches equivelent of a long awaited derby game against your biggest football rivels.
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Post by Bredburyhatter on Dec 13, 2020 17:55:05 GMT
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Post by badgersc on Dec 13, 2020 18:32:47 GMT
I forget exactly why Germany handled the first wave so well. Was it better test and trace? Local labs? Why has it gone wrong in 2nd wave (or are we on third wave now?)? They are at levels greater than previous I think.
Whatever, I don’t think we’re coming out of tier 2 on 16th. I’m not sure what the view is in here - what should we have - 2 or 3? Or are we waiting for what govt does and plumping for the opposite?
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Post by Bredburyhatter on Dec 13, 2020 19:16:57 GMT
Whatever, I don’t think we’re coming out of tier 2 on 16th. I’m not sure what the view is in here - what should we have - 2 or 3? Or are we waiting for what govt does and plumping for the opposite? I'm really on the fence with this one. There are talks that the GM region could be split up again with areas like Stockport, Trafford etc being lowered into T2 whilst areas like Bury, Oldham etc remain in T3. Part of the argument is why these areas should suffer when their rate is lower, and comparisons to areas of London are often made where they are in T2. I think splitting GM up will add to more confusion over borders(it's bad enough as it is in some areas) Another thing is that if we stay in T3, then the suffering of pubs, cafes, restaurants etc will continue in what would probably be their busiest time, it would also mean we can't get back to County just yet...these are all things that I'd love to see get back to normal ASAP, but sadly with a heavy heart then I really think we should remain in T3 until the new year. I also don't think we should be relaxing the rules for Xmas, but I understand why they've done that, but not sure why 5 days and maybe just 2/3.
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Post by HTC on Dec 13, 2020 19:22:55 GMT
I think the general view here seems to be as long as London isn’t still in a lower tier than us, it’ll be fair.
Personally, suspect we will stay in 3, as we will be treated the same as the rest of Greater Manchester, and cases are still fairly high in the northern boroughs. If the boroughs all get treated separately, Us, Trafford & Tameside will all probably go to tier 2.
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Post by bigmartin on Dec 13, 2020 19:29:28 GMT
Whatever, I don’t think we’re coming out of tier 2 on 16th. I’m not sure what the view is in here - what should we have - 2 or 3? Or are we waiting for what govt does and plumping for the opposite? I'm really on the fence with this one. There are talks that the GM region could be split up again with areas like Stockport, Trafford etc being lowered into T2 whilst areas like Bury, Oldham etc remain in T3. Part of the argument is why these areas should suffer when their rate is lower, and comparisons to areas of London are often made where they are in T2. I think splitting GM up will add to more confusion over borders(it's bad enough as it is in some areas) Another thing is that if we stay in T3, then the suffering of pubs, cafes, restaurants etc will continue in what would probably be their busiest time, it would also mean we can't get back to County just yet...these are all things that I'd love to see get back to normal ASAP, but sadly with a heavy heart then I really think we should remain in T3 until the new year. I also don't think we should be relaxing the rules for Xmas, but I understand why they've done that, but not sure why 5 days and maybe just 2/3. Pubs in Tier 2 effectively can't open either. The restrictions are too cutting. Absolutely no point opening the doors to lose money. Most boozers I know have wrapped it up until they drop to Tier 1 (ie. pretty much all).
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Post by badgersc on Dec 13, 2020 19:33:21 GMT
I think the general view here seems to be as long as London isn’t still in a lower tier than us, it’ll be fair. Personally, suspect we will stay in 3, as we will be treated the same as the rest of Greater Manchester, and cases are still fairly high in the northern boroughs. If the boroughs all get treated separately, Us, Trafford & Tameside will all probably go to tier 2. Again (trolling slightly), London comparison is being used by some as a stick to beat govt with. So which is it for GM? 2, 3 or split? On balance I think we can cope with split, so 2 for Stockport. but think will be 3.
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Post by CB1883 on Dec 13, 2020 20:42:55 GMT
I think the general view here seems to be as long as London isn’t still in a lower tier than us, it’ll be fair. Personally, suspect we will stay in 3, as we will be treated the same as the rest of Greater Manchester, and cases are still fairly high in the northern boroughs. If the boroughs all get treated separately, Us, Trafford & Tameside will all probably go to tier 2. Again (trolling slightly), London comparison is being used by some as a stick to beat govt with. So which is it for GM? 2, 3 or split? On balance I think we can cope with split, so 2 for Stockport. but think will be 3. I’d cancel the Christmas relaxations and stick to Tier 3. One thing we should learn from the first easing of the lockdown was it didn’t take long for the cases to jump up again. Do we really want to yo-yo in and out of lockdowns continuously. If I have to wait a couple more months for a pint in an actual pub then so be it.
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Post by desmond on Dec 13, 2020 21:05:28 GMT
I'm really on the fence with this one. There are talks that the GM region could be split up again with areas like Stockport, Trafford etc being lowered into T2 whilst areas like Bury, Oldham etc remain in T3. Part of the argument is why these areas should suffer when their rate is lower, and comparisons to areas of London are often made where they are in T2. I think splitting GM up will add to more confusion over borders(it's bad enough as it is in some areas) Another thing is that if we stay in T3, then the suffering of pubs, cafes, restaurants etc will continue in what would probably be their busiest time, it would also mean we can't get back to County just yet...these are all things that I'd love to see get back to normal ASAP, but sadly with a heavy heart then I really think we should remain in T3 until the new year. I also don't think we should be relaxing the rules for Xmas, but I understand why they've done that, but not sure why 5 days and maybe just 2/3. Pubs in Tier 2 effectively can't open either. The restrictions are too cutting. Absolutely no point opening the doors to lose money. Most boozers I know have wrapped it up until they drop to Tier 1 (ie. pretty much all). Depends, one of my sons is a chef at a pub-restaurant in Wilmslow. I think in normal times their split is probably 70/30 in favour of drink only. Since national lockdown ended they added a chilli bowl to their menu (at about £6 a go) and have been incredibly busy not only with that but also the other menu items.
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Post by bigmartin on Dec 13, 2020 21:43:07 GMT
Pubs in Tier 2 effectively can't open either. The restrictions are too cutting. Absolutely no point opening the doors to lose money. Most boozers I know have wrapped it up until they drop to Tier 1 (ie. pretty much all). Depends, one of my sons is a chef at a pub-restaurant in Wilmslow. I think in normal times their split is probably 70/30 in favour of drink only. Since national lockdown ended they added a chilli bowl to their menu (at about £6 a go) and have been incredibly busy not only with that but also the other menu items. I'm talking about pubs mate. Not pub-restaurants. Or even pubs who serve food. They'll do OK not-least because they'll snap up business from pubs who don't do food and therefore can't open their doors. Doesn't strike me as right to be honest. Glad I'm not in the pub game. In fact, I'm glad I've never invested a penny into a business venture given how this Government would have simply cast me aside, shat on me, and told me to "re-train" after all my investment. I find it all sickening.
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