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Post by mattyovrio on Oct 25, 2020 7:06:00 GMT
Well, some humble pie from me. I didn’t think Pemberton had it in him to marshal his players to beat us, but he did. I thought we were poor yesterday, but a lot of that Simpson to how they set up. We tried hard enough, just couldn’t get going. Back to concentrating on the league then.
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Post by vicar on Oct 25, 2020 7:14:22 GMT
Next 4-5 weeks be better gauge of where we are at with Solihull, Notts County and Hartlepool in that period, we've naturally had a good start but i feel we are still a fair bit off where we need to be in terms of performance, I expect we will improve and get better as its a trait we are used to seeing with Gannon's teams The lack of clean sheets is a worry as we've allowed plenty soft goals conceded creep into our games I'd say we've shown patches of what we may be capable of thus far without putting that one complete peroformance together to say we are the real deal, tuesday would be a good time rectify that I hope we aren't getting too carried away as though Torquay are up their at min i see them finishing 9t/10th material, Halifax were well drilled and in a similar bracket, Dover were absolute fodder and Chesterfield and Wealdstone look like teams finish anywhere lower mid table downwards so i think we've had a gentle introduction fixtures wise I think we will have no issues finishing at worst top 5 but i'd want to start seeing that complete performance that makes think we are the side to beat I don't see it as a gentle introduction, Halifax and Torquay will make the play offs and I wouldn't rule out Chesterfield.
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Post by timberwolf on Oct 25, 2020 8:06:21 GMT
The lack of clean sheets is a worry as we've allowed plenty soft goals conceded creep into our games that actually bothers me more than the defeat yesterday. top of the league, but only one clean sheet. it started from the first game at torquay and its carried on. its not as if our opponents have scored goal of the season contenders against us where you just have to accempt it. hope jim can sort it out as i do not want to go through the rest of the season having to outscore opponents week in week out. do not know what is wrong but our defence just aint right.
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Post by Philcounty on Oct 25, 2020 8:27:59 GMT
that actually bothers me more than the defeat yesterday. top of the league, but only one clean sheet. it started from the first game at torquay and its carried on. its not as if our opponents have scored goal of the season contenders against us where you just have to accempt it. hope jim can sort it out as i do not want to go through the rest of the season having to outscore opponents week in week out. do not know what is wrong but our defence just aint right. We conceded silly goals in pre-season too. On paper we have the best CBs we've had in a long time, but it's just not clicking yet.
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Post by leicesterhatter on Oct 25, 2020 8:33:32 GMT
that actually bothers me more than the defeat yesterday. top of the league, but only one clean sheet. it started from the first game at torquay and its carried on. its not as if our opponents have scored goal of the season contenders against us where you just have to accempt it. hope jim can sort it out as i do not want to go through the rest of the season having to outscore opponents week in week out. do not know what is wrong but our defence just aint right. Pretty sure we have to outscore them every week to beat them...
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Post by Josh on Oct 25, 2020 8:52:08 GMT
that actually bothers me more than the defeat yesterday. top of the league, but only one clean sheet. it started from the first game at torquay and its carried on. its not as if our opponents have scored goal of the season contenders against us where you just have to accempt it. hope jim can sort it out as i do not want to go through the rest of the season having to outscore opponents week in week out. do not know what is wrong but our defence just aint right. As much as I like Hinchliffe, we won't take the next step as a defensive unit until we have a goalkeeper who will come out and claim crosses on a regular basis.
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Post by mattyovrio on Oct 25, 2020 8:58:29 GMT
that actually bothers me more than the defeat yesterday. top of the league, but only one clean sheet. it started from the first game at torquay and its carried on. its not as if our opponents have scored goal of the season contenders against us where you just have to accempt it. hope jim can sort it out as i do not want to go through the rest of the season having to outscore opponents week in week out. do not know what is wrong but our defence just aint right. TBF there were 2 freaky goals v Torquay and Halifax. However, it would be good to start racking up clean sheets sooner rather than later.
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Post by redhatter on Oct 25, 2020 9:02:48 GMT
that actually bothers me more than the defeat yesterday. top of the league, but only one clean sheet. it started from the first game at torquay and its carried on. its not as if our opponents have scored goal of the season contenders against us where you just have to accempt it. hope jim can sort it out as i do not want to go through the rest of the season having to outscore opponents week in week out. do not know what is wrong but our defence just aint right. As much as I like Hinchliffe, we won't take the next step as a defensive unit until we have a goalkeeper who will come out and claim crosses on a regular basis. I think Hinchliffe is good enough and the defence is pretty solid.
Halifax was pretty freaky and I genuinely think Ben dropped his guard, as the ball went out of play.
What is concerning is the number of cheap free kicks we are conceeding when there isn't a real goal threat. Hogan being the chief culprit. We need to cut this out, because numerous free kicks in and around the final third will lead to opposition goals.
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Post by brandnames on Oct 25, 2020 10:22:50 GMT
Now we have the blank Saturday is it possible to rearrange a future mid-week game for this date instead?
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Post by Imposter on Oct 25, 2020 10:28:36 GMT
Now we have the blank Saturday is it possible to rearrange a future mid-week game for this date instead? I had a look at this and the only two teams who are free who we don't already play are Wrexham who we are due to play on Christmas Bank Holiday Monday (in lieu of Boxing Day on the Saturday) or Notts County as the return fixture v them is also midweek. So we could play Wrexham and have an empty week then. Or if Notts are Covid free by then we could play Notts on Saturday 7th and then again on Wednesday 11th. Would be Covid wary around Notts and also not sure about playing a big promotion rival in successive league games, which leaves maybe Wrexham. I'm guessing we'll end up with a blank Saturday.
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Post by Philcounty on Oct 25, 2020 10:39:36 GMT
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Post by Cale Green Hatter on Oct 25, 2020 10:55:03 GMT
Very much agreed. Giving away a free kick on the edge of our opponents area can be annoying but not as damaging as free kicks on the edge of our area can be.
If we try to play a containing game after going ahead we become a hostage to fortune and with our 2 defensive midfielders alongside our 3 center backs can create a crowd scene in the penalty area without any opposition players in there.
That's one of the problems with 3-5-2. We can end up with just 2 of the outfield players operating out wide unless 2 of the 3 central players play as auxiliary full backs when the wing backs are up the pitch or the attacking midfielder is able to drift out wide when needed. I might be wrong (i usually am) but I feel that system needs players to be more mobile than when playing 4-4-2 or 4-3-3. We have an excellent squad of 19 players and when all fit can comfortably rotate but once we pick up 4 injuries (that we had yesterday) we are down to c15 including 2 keepers. Clearly enough to rotate but not having much wriggle room.
I like Nyal Bell but he's not currently at the same level as Richie Bennett and I feel we need another number 9. If Richie is injured i worry that Nyal won't have the nous to bring others into play in the same way Richie does also if Nyal's role is to be an impact sub coming on after an hour or so he will need to improve on his holding up of the ball and bringing others into play. He's not the finished article and will hopefully get more consistently better with time.
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Post by desmond on Oct 25, 2020 10:58:22 GMT
As much as I like Hinchliffe, we won't take the next step as a defensive unit until we have a goalkeeper who will come out and claim crosses on a regular basis. I think Hinchliffe is good enough and the defence is pretty solid.
Halifax was pretty freaky and I genuinely think Ben dropped his guard, as the ball went out of play.
What is concerning is the number of cheap free kicks we are conceeding when there isn't a real goal threat. Hogan being the chief culprit. We need to cut this out, because numerous free kicks in and around the final third will lead to opposition goals. I don’t think I’ve seen any clear evidence that the ball went out of play, the defender and Hinchliffe switched off for that passage of play and unfortunately it is something Ben does from time to time. Not sure there are many better than him at this level but it is an area I’d be looking at as we hope to go forward.
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Post by desmond on Oct 25, 2020 11:00:58 GMT
Players shouldn’t be blamed for missing penalties in shootouts anyway. It’s a poor penalty from Minihan, but I wouldn’t expect him to be taking penalties anyway. It’s the collective failure to do enough over 90 minutes that matters more than the penalties. Tbf to Sam, along with Ben he's probably the player least likely to get stick for missing the decisive penalty. He's done more than enough to be allowed this. In the long run he might have done us a favour. I'd even lose the first Trophy match if it means in 39 league games we have that League Title 😬 I think we need to be careful in looking at the penalty misses as being the cause of us being out of the cup, it wasn’t, it was that overall we were very average yesterday.
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Post by County1999 on Oct 25, 2020 12:18:07 GMT
Tbf to Sam, along with Ben he's probably the player least likely to get stick for missing the decisive penalty. He's done more than enough to be allowed this. In the long run he might have done us a favour. I'd even lose the first Trophy match if it means in 39 league games we have that League Title 😬 I think we need to be careful in looking at the penalty misses as being the cause of us being out of the cup, it wasn’t, it was that overall we were very average yesterday. We were poor but usually that would be a replay, one I'd guess that we wouldn't perform as poorly in. Technically the penalty misses were the reason we went out. Rooney had netted the first one we would have been through
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