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Post by hedleyverity on Mar 19, 2023 9:44:40 GMT
If it wasn't so vague it wouldn't be an all purpose thing for people who are grumpy but don't have the wits to understand why, or just don't want to admit to being bitter and prejudiced, to moan about
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Post by Philcounty on Mar 19, 2023 10:29:39 GMT
That's different, I think. In sporting situations I'm mega competitive and wanted my kids to be the same in the egg and spoon race. But teaching kids about tolerance and understanding of others is absolutely something we should be teaching. A lot depends on what you actually send your kids to school for. On top of that the time they teach things that are not included in the 3 R,s. Got a feeling kids are not being allowed to be kids anymore but some little adults when they actually have little idea of tolerance and understanding but just have to learn it like arithmetic. Know a lot will not agree but i find any form of sex education to kids as young as they are now is something schools should certainly drop. At the age its being mentioned i doubt they have any understanding of the subject as their brains and bodies have not developed in that way. I imagine you have very little idea about 'sex education' in primary schools. It's about relationships rather than sex and only in the final year will they learn a little about the physical side (which to me seems appropriate as they'll be off to high school soon with the potential of picking up all sorts of misconceptions from their peers). In younger years they learn the correct names for body parts and will learn about periods (again appropriate as the age of girls experiencing their first period is dropping). We're not particularly early or in depth with our Relationships and Sex Education compared to other European countries and the statistics all point to more comprehensive sex education leading to fewer teen pregnancies.
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Post by timberwolf on Mar 19, 2023 11:28:21 GMT
A lot depends on what you actually send your kids to school for. On top of that the time they teach things that are not included in the 3 R,s. Got a feeling kids are not being allowed to be kids anymore but some little adults when they actually have little idea of tolerance and understanding but just have to learn it like arithmetic. Know a lot will not agree but i find any form of sex education to kids as young as they are now is something schools should certainly drop. At the age its being mentioned i doubt they have any understanding of the subject as their brains and bodies have not developed in that way. I imagine you have very little idea about 'sex education' in primary schools. It's about relationships rather than sex and only in the final year will they learn a little about the physical side (which to me seems appropriate as they'll be off to high school soon with the potential of picking up all sorts of misconceptions from their peers). In younger years they learn the correct names for body parts and will learn about periods (again appropriate as the age of girls experiencing their first period is dropping). We're not particularly early or in depth with our Relationships and Sex Education compared to other European countries and the statistics all point to more comprehensive sex education leading to fewer teen pregnancies. Know its about relationships but let the poor little sods have a childhood and then grow up. Boys and girls have come out to play since the world began without any need of advice and do,s and do nots. I certainly grew up with far less problems heaped on me than todays young uns have put on their young shoulders without any detriment to the lives of those i came in contact with. As we got older and sexually active we were told to respect others that way and teen pregnancies were counted on one hand with fingers to spare back then. Have things changed so much since then and if it had what went totally wrong to cause this present change in attitudes.
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Post by Philcounty on Mar 19, 2023 12:12:21 GMT
I imagine you have very little idea about 'sex education' in primary schools. It's about relationships rather than sex and only in the final year will they learn a little about the physical side (which to me seems appropriate as they'll be off to high school soon with the potential of picking up all sorts of misconceptions from their peers). In younger years they learn the correct names for body parts and will learn about periods (again appropriate as the age of girls experiencing their first period is dropping). We're not particularly early or in depth with our Relationships and Sex Education compared to other European countries and the statistics all point to more comprehensive sex education leading to fewer teen pregnancies. Know its about relationships but let the poor little sods have a childhood and then grow up. Boys and girls have come out to play since the world began without any need of advice and do,s and do nots. I certainly grew up with far less problems heaped on me than todays young uns have put on their young shoulders without any detriment to the lives of those i came in contact with. As we got older and sexually active we were told to respect others that way and teen pregnancies were counted on one hand with fingers to spare back then. Have things changed so much since then and if it had what went totally wrong to cause this present change in attitudes. How exactly do you imagine these lessons are going? There's nothing heavy or depressing about them, just gives them an idea of how they should expect to be treated and how they should be treating others as well as teaching them to respect different types of relationship. I'd imagine it's not much different to the way you were taught morals through Bible stories in school assemblies but in a non-religious way. Back then religion probably played a larger part and people often gave up babies for adoption if they were teenagers or if the pregnancy happened outside of wedlock. I'd suggest that a lot of problems piled on youngsters come from society, social media etc. rather than teachers who are far more sensitive to their needs and wellbeing than they were when I was at school.
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Post by houldsworthhatter on Mar 29, 2023 5:31:30 GMT
Paul O’Grady. Didn’t realise he was 67.
Edit: Still no age though.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Mar 29, 2023 6:52:01 GMT
Paul O’Grady. Didn’t realise he was 67. Edit: Still no age though. Weird to see him and Mark Thomas together in the first pic on the BBC’s “In Pictures”. You just don’t imagine they’d be in the same circles comedy-wise, but there you go…
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Post by timberwolf on Mar 29, 2023 8:52:52 GMT
Paul O’Grady. Didn’t realise he was 67. Edit: Still no age though. At least he is one celebrity that deserved being called one and someone i,ll miss on the box. Made comedy drag open to a wider audiance and acceptable and then re advented himself successfully.
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Post by Henry Pratt on Mar 29, 2023 9:42:50 GMT
Much as I often disliked life at school during the 70's and early 80's, I think I would take it anytime over the kind of pressure kids must experience today with the prevalence of social media (not, of course, to detract from anyone who survived actual abuse back then). Yeah, it's interesting that there are clearly different pressures today. When I look at the way my kids and grandkids are taught, it's a different, and infinitely better, world. More caring, more protected, safer in many ways, and I think the standard of education is better too. But yeah, social media is a very problematic issue. Incidentally, trivia fans, just remembered: The kid who got the hypodermic through his finger was the brother of Pete Crookes, who was in Ed Banger and the Nosebleeds with former Smiths frontman and holder of troubling later-career views on race, Morrissey.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Mar 29, 2023 10:03:56 GMT
Much as I often disliked life at school during the 70's and early 80's, I think I would take it anytime over the kind of pressure kids must experience today with the prevalence of social media (not, of course, to detract from anyone who survived actual abuse back then). Yeah, it's interesting that there are clearly different pressures today. When I look at the way my kids and grandkids are taught, it's a different, and infinitely better, world. More caring, more protected, safer in many ways, and I think the standard of education is better too. But yeah, social media is a very problematic issue. Incidentally, trivia fans, just remembered: The kid who got the hypodermic through his finger was the brother of Pete Crookes, who was in Ed Banger and the Nosebleeds with former Smiths frontman and holder of troubling later-career views on race, Morrissey. Wow. That trumps my story about nearly running Helen Baxendale over on my bike when they were filming the Cold Feet wedding outside the Manchester Fashion Institute!
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Post by David Schofield on Mar 29, 2023 10:04:31 GMT
Paul O’Grady. Didn’t realise he was 67. Edit: Still no age though. Seemed like a very funny genuinely caring man and a hugely underrated interviewer
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Post by David Schofield on Mar 29, 2023 10:07:58 GMT
Know its about relationships but let the poor little sods have a childhood and then grow up. Boys and girls have come out to play since the world began without any need of advice and do,s and do nots. I certainly grew up with far less problems heaped on me than todays young uns have put on their young shoulders without any detriment to the lives of those i came in contact with. As we got older and sexually active we were told to respect others that way and teen pregnancies were counted on one hand with fingers to spare back then. Have things changed so much since then and if it had what went totally wrong to cause this present change in attitudes. How exactly do you imagine these lessons are going? There's nothing heavy or depressing about them, just gives them an idea of how they should expect to be treated and how they should be treating others as well as teaching them to respect different types of relationship. I'd imagine it's not much different to the way you were taught morals through Bible stories in school assemblies but in a non-religious way. Back then religion probably played a larger part and people often gave up babies for adoption if they were teenagers or if the pregnancy happened outside of wedlock. I'd suggest that a lot of problems piled on youngsters come from society, social media etc. rather than teachers who are far more sensitive to their needs and wellbeing than they were when I was at school. I was a Sex & Relationship Education Teacher in a Key Stage 4 Pupil Referral Unit up until 2019, learnt a lot
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Post by desmond on Mar 29, 2023 14:22:48 GMT
Paul O’Grady. Didn’t realise he was 67. Edit: Still no age though. Seemed like a very funny genuinely caring man and a hugely underrated interviewer Aught a bit of the Vine radio show whilst out driving earlier and they were talking about the death of Lily Savage as though she was the actual person who had died. I get that the character was a major thing with regards to the gay community but thought that talking about the character rather than the person behind it was a little strange/disrespectful.
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Post by Bredburyhatter on Mar 29, 2023 20:07:09 GMT
POGDOGS was one of my favourite guilty pleasure/chill out tv programmes. A sad loss to the entertainment industry.
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Post by geordiehatter on Mar 29, 2023 21:27:50 GMT
So sad to hear about O'Grady's demise and no age really these days. His Sunday teatime show was always a fixture in our house and he was weirdly treated by the BBC at the end, sort of half-axed him, made him share his show 13 weeks on 13 weeks off with another DJ, I never understood the thinking there at all.
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Post by malc on Mar 29, 2023 21:56:35 GMT
Paul O’Grady. Didn’t realise he was 67. Edit: Still no age though. What is with me and celebrities dropping dead when I'm visiting waterfalls? I was at Niagara the day Michael Jackson threw a double six and today I've been in Brazil visiting the Iguazu Falls when we heard this very sad news. As a dog lover, I adored the work he did for Battersea dogs home. He'll be very sorely missed by the canine community he did so much to help. Everyone has to go but PoG will be a big loss to many pooches and humans. RIP Paul. Woof Woof.
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