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Post by timberwolf on Mar 31, 2023 10:19:03 GMT
I genuinely get your point and as two people who obviously love dogs I fully respect your opinion. The Major problem for me is people not breeders. The dog for Christmas/lockdown who then give up for no reason and simply abandon are the real scum here. As I put in another thread the rescue dog we reluctantly had to give up due to safety issues, we made absolutely sure that he was rehomed again in a more appropriate environment. Incidentally the charity that originally housed him with us were, it turned out, fully aware of the aggressive tendencies and also that we had a young child and never once mentioned it to us, that is worse than indiscriminate breeders. We have recently bought from a breeder who insisted we visit 3 times at various stages of the initial 8 weeks and was clearly vetting us just as much as we were vetting her. I accept that there are scum out there who should be rounded up and eliminated, but can't accept that one size fits all. I know mate. Probably on very similar pages. I'd like a 5 year moratorium on breeding just so we can get our issue under control. As it stands we're just breeding more dogs on top of a pre-existing problem. Then I think we'd have a manageable issue and people could make their own personal choices without cantankerous old tw*ts like me mouthing off. Do think many of what can be described as caring breeders actually allow the situation of the back street breeder and puppy farmers to flourish. Simply due to the prices they ask for a puppy. When a bernese mountain dog puppy is regarded as cheap at 1,500 quid you know there is a problem. Its not just aggressiveness eith with rescue dogs its health issues with some even just eating can be a problem. I have been relatively lucky with mine but some people have not by a long way. Not oversure the new owner gets the full and complete information about the animal from some rescue centres or the vetting procedure for new owners is all that it should be. Having a big enclosed garden is not the b all of dog ownership where all they might get is the use of that garden and never exercised. No garden but proof of dog ownership in the past is far better as you know the owner has no option but getting off their backside a few times a day. Afraid new dog ownership is getting closer to buying another car nowadays of the type or breed you prefer. A new one or a puppy from equally possibly dodgy sellers you do not know or a second hand rehomer with little real service or past history. |
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Post by malc on Mar 31, 2023 13:04:41 GMT
I genuinely get your point and as two people who obviously love dogs I fully respect your opinion. The Major problem for me is people not breeders. The dog for Christmas/lockdown who then give up for no reason and simply abandon are the real scum here. As I put in another thread the rescue dog we reluctantly had to give up due to safety issues, we made absolutely sure that he was rehomed again in a more appropriate environment. Incidentally the charity that originally housed him with us were, it turned out, fully aware of the aggressive tendencies and also that we had a young child and never once mentioned it to us, that is worse than indiscriminate breeders. We have recently bought from a breeder who insisted we visit 3 times at various stages of the initial 8 weeks and was clearly vetting us just as much as we were vetting her. I accept that there are scum out there who should be rounded up and eliminated, but can't accept that one size fits all. I know mate. Probably on very similar pages. I'd like a 5 year moratorium on breeding just so we can get our issue under control. As it stands we're just breeding more dogs on top of a pre-existing problem. Then I think we'd have a manageable issue and people could make their own personal choices without cantankerous old tw*ts like me mouthing off. I think you might be surprised as to how many dogs get exported to the UK from Spain. We don't live in an overpopulated part of Spain but we know of two local rescue charities who regularly send animals to England. As there, the problem here is enormous. The older generation Spaniards won't get their bitches speyed and they let them have the run of neighbourhood. It's a shocking problem. Our 2nd dog, who we christened Lecky, was living wild on the streets and found himself tagging along with the local lothario when the bitch next door to us was in heat. Luckily for him, and for us, after a heck of a lot of persuasion and dog biscuits, we managed to coax him into our garden and he's been with us ever since. He's the best dog you could wish for, lovely temperament and gets on very well with his older sister who we adopted from Paws Patas a year earlier. Many countries should adopt the policies they have in Germany, Netherlands and Scandinavia. Only licensed breeders are allowed to sell dogs and it's illegal, to sell un speyed/unneutered dogs to the general public. Of course there are unscrupulous people in those countries and many of our dogs do go to those countries but they do have to be prevented from future breeding 1st. Which in turn cause huge problems for the rescue charities, as while it's much cheaper to get that done here, it ain't free and they are still charities who need every penny. It is a big problem here too. |
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Post by herbiedumplings on Apr 6, 2023 12:46:13 GMT
Not sure this counts since he avoided the limelight by all accounts, by Norman Reynolds who was artist director for Star Wars and Indiana Jones.
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Post by AllyF on Apr 7, 2023 17:22:50 GMT
Paul Cattermole from S Club 7 aged 46. Very sad at such a young age.
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Post by advent on Apr 22, 2023 12:12:47 GMT
Dame Edna/Barry Humphries
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Post by shootershillbilly on Apr 22, 2023 15:05:54 GMT
A bit niche, The Pop groups Mark Stewart, only 62. It seems we are all prostitutes.. still
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Post by advent on Apr 24, 2023 8:58:58 GMT
Len Goodman
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Post by herbiedumplings on Apr 24, 2023 9:07:24 GMT
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Post by orkneyhatter on Apr 24, 2023 9:18:26 GMT
SE'VEN!, sorry, couldn't resist |
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Post by ancienthatter on Apr 25, 2023 14:14:13 GMT
Harry Belafonte aged 96 - a member of that famous club… People Who We All Thought Was Dead Already.
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Post by vicar on Apr 25, 2023 14:56:23 GMT
Harry Belafonte aged 96 - a member of that famous club… People Who We All Thought Was Dead Already. He was definitely in that club, what a great singer though. |
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Post by Fallowfield Hatter on Apr 25, 2023 15:31:49 GMT
SE'VEN!, sorry, couldn't resist HEAVENNNNN, more like. |
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Post by scfc73 on Apr 25, 2023 16:06:15 GMT
SE'VEN!, sorry, couldn't resist HEAVENNNNN, more like. That's exactly what entered my mind but I resisted the urge!  R.I.P. Len |
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Post by philtheglass on Apr 27, 2023 14:45:52 GMT
Jerry Springer dies aged 79
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Fez
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Post by Fez on Apr 27, 2023 20:24:12 GMT
Harry Belafonte aged 96 - a member of that famous club… People Who We All Thought Was Dead Already. He was definitely in that club, what a great singer though. And a great and tireless activist as well. |
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R.I.P. Len 
