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Post by didsburyhatter on Feb 2, 2021 21:18:43 GMT
Well that was awful, and Rusk is probably thanking his lucky stars it was in front of an empty stadium.
I've been getting a wiff of a handful of people on this board secretly wanting Rusk to fail and will probably revel in the idea of Wilson regretting the decision to sack Jim.
Some of our performances under Jim weren't good enough - Weymouth and Solihull at home being two examples and tonight felt similar to these, throw in the Notts County and Hartlepool away games too.
Rusk has though made a huge error with the unchanged side tonight - two heavy pitches within a week, it's no wonder we've also lost Kitching to injury on top of a diabolical performance.
Also Williams on for Ktiching and then switching Minihan to LB...weird.
Bench wrong for me tonight too. Two CBs with J.Jennings and Thomas not making the squad. With the season being as it is, we need everyone involved to really take advantage.
I would be content to see us drop Barnes too in lieu of another outfield player (anyone able to tell me when we last had to substitute the keeper!?) Seems pointless with us having so much strength in depth and games coming thick and fast. If J.Jennings was on the bench instead we'd have started with more balance on there and could have been a straight swap for Kitching.
Hinchliffe isn't good enough with his feet, it's been a problem for a while and tonight we paid for it. Great penalty save made up for it, and it shows us that he is a very good keeper, at this level, when it comes to shot stopping- credit where it's due. But we need to limit the number of backpasses to him if we're to stick with him.
Awful challenge from Hogan, stone wall penalty and his "I didn't touch him" appeal was nothing short of embarrassing, honestly don't know what he was doing, could have stayed on his feet, narrowed the angle and made it easier for Hinchliffe in a 1v1 situation.
Thought Maynard was very lucky to stay on the pitch. His protest was as embarrassing as Hogans, and throwing his head into the referee was totally out of order. If I was Rusk I'd be roasting him for that tonight - we seriously could have been down to 9 men there and then. Poor discipline.
JK on commentary got on my wick tonight too.
Yes lads, it will go down as an own goal, no Maynard was booked and Hogan was given a straight red, this was not a yellow card and upgraded to a red for dissent. I didn't need any replay to understand either decision.
Tonight was an opportunity missed with some of the results and postponements.Hopefully we can rectify it on Saturday with some fresh legs on BT
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Feb 2, 2021 21:19:26 GMT
I’m sure many might disagree, but it very possible that Saturday and tonight had little to do with the current or previous manager (i.e. whoever was in charge the same results were likely). Woking were poor. I listened to Radio Surrey and even their commentators called them a shambles. Saturday was similar to Wealdstone away. Tonight was so similar to Hartlepool away. Suttton stopped us playing. We made too many individual mistakes. The most frustrating thing is the poor discipline from the players - and that is on the players. Maynard’s reaction to the penalty could have been a red. He reacted to a foul by them in the first half looking for a yellow card which was poor from him. Rooney got involved with the referee when Bennett got booked and it was nothing to do with him. We gave away so many free kicks in our half. Somebody mentioned earlier about too many of the newer players having a ‘billy big bollocks’ attitude. I agree with that. They need to improve their attitude (dare I say the ‘C’ word even). We have the quality within the squad to be there or thereabouts. But we won’t be if the attitude and discipline don’t improve. This is what I’ve been trying to get across. I don’t blame Rusk at all it’s the players who are at fault for poor discipline, it’s up to Rusk now to get them under his control. Jim couldn’t do it (or at least wasn’t given the chance to) so it’s up to Simon Rusk now. Proper ruined my Tuesday has that. At least everything that’s gone on hasn’t blunted the frustration I feel after a defeat |
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Post by Ngard on Feb 2, 2021 21:20:34 GMT
Watch us get beat as Alty tonk Torquay.. [/strike][/quote] Well... |
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Post by mattyovrio on Feb 2, 2021 21:20:39 GMT
That was dreadful. If we can be jubilant about Saturday, we can be scathing about tonight. Utter shite. Needs a big response on Saturday. I hate to say it because it’s outrageously early but if we get dicked on Saturday, he’s going to be under pressure already. Sadly that’s the world we live in. This is not his squad, let’s judge him after at least ten games, his team will get better second half of the season, etc etc. Sound familiar? I agree with you. He needs time to get to know the players and get the best out of them he can, then rebuild in the summer. However, I doubt he’ll get that far if there are many more performances like that. |
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Post by Philcounty on Feb 2, 2021 21:21:10 GMT
I think you’re spot on about the discipline and it was always something JG insisted on...perhaps this is the new culture ...tonight was a shambles. Wasn’t impressed with the substitutions either. However, far too early to judge the new manager/coach. He has something of a free pass the rest of this season....as long as there aren’t too many more nights like tonight. It needs to be much improved on Saturday and hopefully it will be. Hogan needs to have a look at himself. It was a very rash challenge for their pen. He should know better. What the new custodians will find though is that JG got more benefit of the doubt from the fans than any other manager. It served him well at times because he got longer to put things right and continuously improve. A new man won't get a free pass for long from the fans. Under these circumstances, even less. |
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Post by hedleyverity on Feb 2, 2021 21:21:36 GMT
Presumably your trendy modern coaching badges are quite big on not committing unnecessary offences?
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Post by clophiller on Feb 2, 2021 21:22:31 GMT
We lost and it was terrible, but so was the pitch, and playing with a goalie as sweeper who isn't a footballer is just ridiculous, and can only end badly. The irony of the second goal was that it came from a quick long punt from their keeper.
I'm just glad we've got a manager who has won this division twice - he knows what it takes to succeed.
Hopefully Alty hang on at Torquay and despite this awful performance we're not really much worse off.
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Post by gibbo on Feb 2, 2021 21:23:19 GMT
We've lost 2-0 to a side up there with us, so embarrassing and pathetic as I've read is a bit strong.
We were probably the better side for the first 30 mins (without creating too much), and we've then been hit by a freak goal. But for that, 0-0 at Half Time would probably have been fair.
Half Time we've been forced in to a reshuffle, which the Manager probably got wrong with hindsight, and 2nd Half was then very poor.
Might we have played better / got a better result under Gannon? Maybe. Might the outcome have been pretty much the same? Maybe.
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Post by NeonDave on Feb 2, 2021 21:24:19 GMT
I don't want to argue about managers but I think it shows how important a team can be over individuals that the majority of our players from the Promotion season dropped down a division after having left us, yet were able to keep us around the playoffs for most of last seaon playing with a strong team ethic.
I'd rather have that than 2 or 3 improved individuals at the expense of the team.
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Post by Fallowfield Hatter on Feb 2, 2021 21:25:37 GMT
We've lost 2-0 to a side up there with us, so embarrassing and pathetic as I've read is a bit strong. We were probably the better side for the first 30 mins (without creating too much), and we've then been hit by a freak goal. But for that, 0-0 at Half Time would probably have been fair. Half Time we've been forced in to a reshuffle, which the Manager probably got wrong with hindsight, and 2nd Half was then very poor. Might we have played better / got a better result under Gannon? Maybe. Might the outcome have been pretty much the same? Maybe. The discipline was most certainly embarrassing, and, dare I say, pathetic. |
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Post by clophiller on Feb 2, 2021 21:25:58 GMT
We've lost 2-0 to a side up there with us, so embarrassing and pathetic as I've read is a bit strong. We were probably the better side for the first 30 mins (without creating too much), and we've then been hit by a freak goal. But for that, 0-0 at Half Time would probably have been fair. Half Time we've been forced in to a reshuffle, which the Manager probably got wrong with hindsight, and 2nd Half was then very poor. Might we have played better / got a better result under Gannon? Maybe. Might the outcome have been pretty much the same? Maybe. The freak goal wasn't a surprise it was an accident waiting to happen |
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Post by m14hatter on Feb 2, 2021 21:26:39 GMT
I don't want to argue about managers but I think it shows how important a team can be over individuals that the majority of our players from the Promotion season dropped down a division after having left us, yet were able to keep us around the playoffs for most of last seaon playing with a strong team ethic. I'd rather have that than 2 or 3 improved individuals at the expense of the team. I think that was all down to momentum though. Jim said himself that for us to challenge we needed to FT and improve the squad. I think if we’d have gone with the same squad again we’d have been lower mid table tops. |
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Post by herbiedumplings on Feb 2, 2021 21:27:40 GMT
There are players in this squad who think they’re the big I am... And I’ve no doubt their egos were thoroughly massaged in order to bring them here, so hardly surprising. The biggest thing for me after the poor discipline was the fact we continued to try and recycle the ball and play out from the back. Aside from the freak OG that’s the risk you take doing backpasses into the goal not to one side, it clearly wasn’t working but we persisted with it until the sending off I reckon. Maybe just teething troubles, but not very inspiring... |
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Post by advent on Feb 2, 2021 21:28:32 GMT
I think you’re spot on about the discipline and it was always something JG insisted on...perhaps this is the new culture ...tonight was a shambles. Wasn’t impressed with the substitutions either. However, far too early to judge the new manager/coach. He has something of a free pass the rest of this season....as long as there aren’t too many more nights like tonight. It needs to be much improved on Saturday and hopefully it will be. Hogan needs to have a look at himself. It was a very rash challenge for their pen. He should know better. No for me he hasnt got a free pass, not his fault he is where he is but the remit is to get promoted with or without Jim. We are not someones experiment for the rest of the season, jim put us in a strong position to be fighting for the title, we arnt Alty and just happy to be there. Rusk knew what he was walking into hes not an idiot, he knew the footsteps he was following and the expection levels, if hes backed himself to further us from where we are now then fine but he doesnt do it then he shouldnt have taken the job. Hes got to deliver this season. |
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Post by pad1970 on Feb 2, 2021 21:28:46 GMT
Well that was awful, and Rusk is probably thanking his lucky stars it was in front of an empty stadium. I've been getting a wiff of a handful of people on this board secretly wanting Rusk to fail and will probably revel in the idea of Wilson regretting the decision to sack Jim. Some of our performances under Jim weren't good enough - Weymouth and Solihull at home being two examples and tonight felt similar to these, throw in the Notts County and Hartlepool away games too. Rusk has though made a huge error with the unchanged side tonight - two heavy pitches within a week, it's no wonder we've also lost Kitching to injury on top of a diabolical performance. Also Williams on for Ktiching and then switching Minihan to LB...weird. Bench wrong for me tonight too. Two CBs with J.Jennings and Thomas not making the squad. With the season being as it is, we need everyone involved to really take advantage. I would be content to see us drop Barnes too in lieu of another outfield player (anyone able to tell me when we last had to substitute the keeper!?) Seems pointless with us having so much strength in depth and games coming thick and fast. If J.Jennings was on the bench instead we'd have started with more balance on there and could have been a straight swap for Kitching. Hinchliffe isn't good enough with his feet, it's been a problem for a while and tonight we paid for it. Great penalty save made up for it, and it shows us that he is a very good keeper, at this level, when it comes to shot stopping- credit where it's due. But we need to limit the number of backpasses to him if we're to stick with him. Awful challenge from Hogan, stone wall penalty and his "I didn't touch him" appeal was nothing short of embarrassing, honestly don't know what he was doing, could have stayed on his feet, narrowed the angle and made it easier for Hinchliffe in a 1v1 situation. Thought Maynard was very lucky to stay on the pitch. His protest was as embarrassing as Hogans, and throwing his head into the referee was totally out of order. If I was Rusk I'd be roasting him for that tonight - we seriously could have been down to 9 men there and then. Poor discipline. JK on commentary got on my wick tonight too. Yes lads, it will go down as an own goal, no Maynard was booked and Hogan was given a straight red, this was not a yellow card and upgraded to a red for dissent. I didn't need any replay to understand either decision. Tonight was an opportunity missed with some of the results and postponements.Hopefully we can rectify it on Saturday with some fresh legs on BT Agree about JK. I turned the commentary off in the second half. He was making my mood even worse! |
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