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Post by hghatter123 on Feb 2, 2021 22:21:14 GMT
The most predictable answers imaginable. Hope he’s more inspiring when it comes to the players |
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Post by edinburghhatter on Feb 2, 2021 22:21:22 GMT
That was a truly underwhelming performance tonight, at a point in the season when we could have made a real statement of intent and (as it turns out) closed the gap on the league leaders. But we didn't, as so often before, and Sutton got what they deserved.
We never really looked like creating anything dangerous for ourselves... only on behalf of Sutton, as we persisted in passing the ball across the back on a terrible pitch. The OG, when it came, was spectacular but it wasn't a total surprise.
I'm not in the slightest religious, but I remember once talking to a friend who is. I asked her what Purgatory was all about. She looked at me in disbelief, then said "and I thought you were a Stockport County fan?"
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Post by clophiller on Feb 2, 2021 22:21:24 GMT
I'm trying to think of anything positive at all to say. Nope. That was absolutely dogshit. I'm not going to start laying into Rusk, because he's been here five minutes. I'm not convinced tonight has much to do with him, in the same way I don't think Saturday was much to do with him. But where he got reserved praise from me then, he gets reserved criticism now. What really, genuinely angers me is that we lost this game primarily because of poor discipline. Ridiculous goal to concede for the opener, horrendous penalty to concede for the second, and the second is embarrassing. But red cards, yellows for dissent... dear me. I didn't understand Rusk's substitution at all, I will say that. Bizarre. And he needs to stamp some authority on these lot, or he's on a hiding to nothing. It's far too early to judge Rusk, but I have seen enough of some of these players to know I don't want them here any more. For me, Hogan can't be down the road soon enough. I wouldn't be upset to see Rooney gone either. The Gannon decision aside, there's something really not right about this club at the moment. Progress under the old ownership was slow, but we at least knew we were getting bang for our (or more accurately, their) buck. They maximised what we could get out of everything. Now we seem to be profligate, wasteful, assembling a team full of gobshites who aren't up for the fight. I'd love to be in Simon Wilson's head tonight. I put the blame on him. I have seen all sorts of interpretations of his dreadful interview on here. The way I read it is that he was given an almighty bollocking from the fall out of his decision. I reckon he will be under even more pressure now, and I've said on here before that I hope he'll be gone in 4 to 6 weeks having recovered his poise and got a new job. I think after tonight it's not odds on, but its certainly more likely. |
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Post by Philcounty on Feb 2, 2021 22:21:24 GMT
I'm trying to think of anything positive at all to say. Nope. That was absolutely dogshit. I'm not going to start laying into Rusk, because he's been here five minutes. I'm not convinced tonight has much to do with him, in the same way I don't think Saturday was much to do with him. But where he got reserved praise from me then, he gets reserved criticism now. What really, genuinely angers me is that we lost this game primarily because of poor discipline. Ridiculous goal to concede for the opener, horrendous penalty to concede for the second, and the third is embarrassing. But red cards, yellows for dissent... dear me. I didn't understand Rusk's substitution at all, I will say that. Bizarre. And he needs to stamp some authority on these lot, or he's on a hiding to nothing. It's far too early to judge Rusk, but I have seen enough of some of these players to know I don't want them here any more. For me, Hogan can't be down the road soon enough. I wouldn't be upset to see Rooney gone either. The Gannon decision aside, there's something really not right about this club at the moment. Progress under the old ownership was slow, but we at least new we were getting back for our (or more accurately, their) buck. They maximised what we could get out of everything. Now we seem to be profligate, wasteful, assembling a team full of gobshites who aren't up for the fight. I'd love to be in Simon Wilson's head tonight. I put the blame on him. Great post. I know we are third in the league and everything but there is something about this team that I'm finding it hard to warm to. For all the spells of scintillating football we've seen (and there've been some) I don't know that I've yet seen them really face adversity and conquer it as an eleven. They seem at their best when they can get on top quickly, and against poorer teams. The West Ham game clearly a very positive exception.. but again, that's not our bread and butter, that sort of gala night. They need to get better at raising themselves for the challenge of facing supposed equals. 5th now |
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Post by 57hattersyears on Feb 2, 2021 22:23:09 GMT
I'm trying to think of anything positive at all to say. Nope. That was absolutely dogshit. I'm not going to start laying into Rusk, because he's been here five minutes. I'm not convinced tonight has much to do with him, in the same way I don't think Saturday was much to do with him. But where he got reserved praise from me then, he gets reserved criticism now. What really, genuinely angers me is that we lost this game primarily because of poor discipline. Ridiculous goal to concede for the opener, horrendous penalty to concede for the second, and the third is embarrassing. But red cards, yellows for dissent... dear me. I didn't understand Rusk's substitution at all, I will say that. Bizarre. And he needs to stamp some authority on these lot, or he's on a hiding to nothing. It's far too early to judge Rusk, but I have seen enough of some of these players to know I don't want them here any more. For me, Hogan can't be down the road soon enough. I wouldn't be upset to see Rooney gone either. The Gannon decision aside, there's something really not right about this club at the moment. Progress under the old ownership was slow, but we at least new we were getting back for our (or more accurately, their) buck. They maximised what we could get out of everything. Now we seem to be profligate, wasteful, assembling a team full of gobshites who aren't up for the fight. I'd love to be in Simon Wilson's head tonight. I put the blame on him. This, absolutely. The Gannon decision aside, there's something really not right about this club at the moment. Progress under the old ownership was slow, but we at least new we were getting back for our (or more accurately, their) buck. They maximised what we could get out of everything. Now we seem to be profligate, wasteful, assembling a team full of gobshites who aren't up for the fight.
I'd love to be in Simon Wilson's head tonight. I put the blame on him.Directors of Football, it is arguable are a luxury at the very top level, but it's an absolute bloody certainty that they are in the National League. Power without accountability. When his appointment was announced I rolled my eyes and now I know why! I preferred the organic growth. Gannon had said that his team had gone as far as it could and investment was needed. Heaven alone knows how much has been spent on players; backroom staff; redundancy payments; works to the ground; new scoreboards and plenty of other stuff. It's totally unsustainable in terms of a business model without a sugar daddy. We won't know for a long time how this has been introduced to the Club and what liability has accrued. But one thing I do know is that if 20% of what has been spent had been directed to building a team on the principles that have seen us improve every year then the club would in my view be in a better place. It's been tons of money misdirected. But we are in a 'project' - to satisfy whom it's far from clear, and the beneficiaries of which even less so. |
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Post by geordiehatter on Feb 2, 2021 22:23:40 GMT
I’ve always thought that Hogan, Maynard, Rooney were not typical Jim Gannon profile players. It’s their discipline that’s always in question. 2 things I’ve often thought is were these 3 forced on Jim and was he put under pressure to play them. We may never know. Lois Maynard is not fit to lace Sam Walkers boots. I haven't said it in plain English before, I've implied it and skirted around it but those three aren't Gannon signings. As good as they are on their day, there are big flaws in all three that Jim wouldn't have gone for and I believe they were imposed upon him. Hogan and Maynard could leave tonight and I wouldn't lose a wink of sleep, Rooney is a very talented player but I can't shake the feeling that all of this indiscipline sort of radiates out from him. I've celebrated every single one of his goals but I'm starting to get sick of the sight of him and I think his attitude is awful. All three of these players share one big flaw, they're usually very good against poor sides when we're winning. When we're up against the better sides and everyone has got jobs to do that they don't particularly fancy, they go missing or they cost us spectacularly. I've really had enough of it. The toxicity emanating from them is why we've changed managers at a crucial stage of the season, Rusk and Wilson had better get it under control very quickly. Yes I agree with that. Someone said earlier Rooney needed to get all over the pitch to make up for poor showings around him. That's not my reading. It's easy for a player of his style and talent to pick the ball off his centre half and ping forty yard balls. But it's not his job in the team. Others can do that, he needs to make his presence felt at the danger end. |
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Post by m20hatter on Feb 2, 2021 22:24:32 GMT
I'm trying to think of anything positive at all to say. Nope. That was absolutely dogshit. I'm not going to start laying into Rusk, because he's been here five minutes. I'm not convinced tonight has much to do with him, in the same way I don't think Saturday was much to do with him. But where he got reserved praise from me then, he gets reserved criticism now. What really, genuinely angers me is that we lost this game primarily because of poor discipline. Ridiculous goal to concede for the opener, horrendous penalty to concede for the second, and the second is embarrassing. But red cards, yellows for dissent... dear me. I didn't understand Rusk's substitution at all, I will say that. Bizarre. And he needs to stamp some authority on these lot, or he's on a hiding to nothing. It's far too early to judge Rusk, but I have seen enough of some of these players to know I don't want them here any more. For me, Hogan can't be down the road soon enough. I wouldn't be upset to see Rooney gone either. The Gannon decision aside, there's something really not right about this club at the moment. Progress under the old ownership was slow, but we at least knew we were getting bang for our (or more accurately, their) buck. They maximised what we could get out of everything. Now we seem to be profligate, wasteful, assembling a team full of gobshites who aren't up for the fight. I'd love to be in Simon Wilson's head tonight. I put the blame on him. I have seen all sorts of interpretations of his dreadful interview on here. The way I read it is that he was given an almighty bollocking from the fall out of his decision. I reckon he will be under even more pressure now, and I've said on here before that I hope he'll be gone in 4 to 6 weeks having recovered his poise and got a new job. I think after tonight it's not odds on, but its certainly more likely. This is exactly the way I saw it too. He is massively under the cosh. |
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Post by popeye on Feb 2, 2021 22:25:45 GMT
The most predictable answers imaginable. Hope he’s more inspiring when it comes to the players [ Honest |
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Post by muddywaters on Feb 2, 2021 22:26:49 GMT
I’ve always thought that Hogan, Maynard, Rooney were not typical Jim Gannon profile players. It’s their discipline that’s always in question. 2 things I’ve often thought is were these 3 forced on Jim and was he put under pressure to play them. We may never know. Lois Maynard is not fit to lace Sam Walkers boots. I haven't said it in plain English before, I've implied it and skirted around it but those three aren't Gannon signings. As good as they are on their day, there are big flaws in all three that Jim wouldn't have gone for and I believe they were imposed upon him. Hogan and Maynard could leave tonight and I wouldn't lose a wink of sleep, Rooney is a very talented player but I can't shake the feeling that all of this indiscipline sort of radiates out from him. I've celebrated every single one of his goals but I'm starting to get sick of the sight of him and I think his attitude is awful. All three of these players share one big flaw, they're usually very good against poor sides when we're winning. When we're up against the better sides and everyone has got jobs to do that they don't particularly fancy, they go missing or they cost us spectacularly. I've really had enough of it. The toxicity emanating from them is why we've changed managers at a crucial stage of the season, Rusk and Wilson had better get it under control very quickly. Yes you're bang on, compare the attitude of those three to somebody like Jordan Keane............like chalk and cheese. |
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Feb 2, 2021 22:27:03 GMT
Least we're not Southampton fans...
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Post by geordiehatter on Feb 2, 2021 22:29:09 GMT
I'm trying to think of anything positive at all to say. Nope. That was absolutely dogshit. I'm not going to start laying into Rusk, because he's been here five minutes. I'm not convinced tonight has much to do with him, in the same way I don't think Saturday was much to do with him. But where he got reserved praise from me then, he gets reserved criticism now. What really, genuinely angers me is that we lost this game primarily because of poor discipline. Ridiculous goal to concede for the opener, horrendous penalty to concede for the second, and the third is embarrassing. But red cards, yellows for dissent... dear me. I didn't understand Rusk's substitution at all, I will say that. Bizarre. And he needs to stamp some authority on these lot, or he's on a hiding to nothing. It's far too early to judge Rusk, but I have seen enough of some of these players to know I don't want them here any more. For me, Hogan can't be down the road soon enough. I wouldn't be upset to see Rooney gone either. The Gannon decision aside, there's something really not right about this club at the moment. Progress under the old ownership was slow, but we at least new we were getting back for our (or more accurately, their) buck. They maximised what we could get out of everything. Now we seem to be profligate, wasteful, assembling a team full of gobshites who aren't up for the fight. I'd love to be in Simon Wilson's head tonight. I put the blame on him. This, absolutely. The Gannon decision aside, there's something really not right about this club at the moment. Progress under the old ownership was slow, but we at least new we were getting back for our (or more accurately, their) buck. They maximised what we could get out of everything. Now we seem to be profligate, wasteful, assembling a team full of gobshites who aren't up for the fight.
I'd love to be in Simon Wilson's head tonight. I put the blame on him.Directors of Football, it is arguable are a luxury at the very top level, but it's an absolute bloody certainty that they are in the National League. Power without accountability. When his appointment was announced I rolled my eyes and now I know why! I preferred the organic growth. Gannon had said that his team had gone as far as it could and investment was needed. Heaven alone knows how much has been spent on players; backroom staff; redundancy payments; works to the ground; new scoreboards and plenty of other stuff. It's totally unsustainable in terms of a business model without a sugar daddy. We won't know for a long time how this has been introduced to the Club and what liability has accrued. But one thing I do know is that if 20% of what has been spent had been directed to building a team on the principles that have seen us improve every year then the club would in my view be in a better place. It's been tons of money misdirected. But we are in a 'project' - to satisfy whom it's far from clear, and the beneficiaries of which even less so. Yes. 'The exciting project'. A phrase used exclusively by Primary School teachers.... And rookie football coaches (also by European ones, but I will let them off, it's not their first language). Never used by actual football supporters, of course. |
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Post by left on Feb 2, 2021 22:29:45 GMT
From someone who was there and saw the challenge This is interesting, because it looked a stonewall pen to me from the stream. Even if he did win the ball though, I am not sure why he was diving in making a challenge like that there - he should have just stood up and pushed the Sutton player wide? Also just as surprised by this, looked a stonewall and stupid decision. If thats the case, fingers crossed for the appeal. |
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Post by BWScarf on Feb 2, 2021 22:31:01 GMT
I hope Rusk grows into these interviews and stops using phrases like ‘what we’re trying to do big picture’. Give him time though. JK reckons we were unlucky! I want some of whatever delusional substance he’s on. |
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Post by Tameside_hatter on Feb 2, 2021 22:32:57 GMT
I'm trying to think of anything positive at all to say. Nope. That was absolutely dogshit. I'm not going to start laying into Rusk, because he's been here five minutes. I'm not convinced tonight has much to do with him, in the same way I don't think Saturday was much to do with him. But where he got reserved praise from me then, he gets reserved criticism now. What really, genuinely angers me is that we lost this game primarily because of poor discipline. Ridiculous goal to concede for the opener, horrendous penalty to concede for the second, and the second is embarrassing. But red cards, yellows for dissent... dear me. I didn't understand Rusk's substitution at all, I will say that. Bizarre. And he needs to stamp some authority on these lot, or he's on a hiding to nothing. It's far too early to judge Rusk, but I have seen enough of some of these players to know I don't want them here any more. For me, Hogan can't be down the road soon enough. I wouldn't be upset to see Rooney gone either. The Gannon decision aside, there's something really not right about this club at the moment. Progress under the old ownership was slow, but we at least knew we were getting bang for our (or more accurately, their) buck. They maximised what we could get out of everything. Now we seem to be profligate, wasteful, assembling a team full of gobshites who aren't up for the fight. I'd love to be in Simon Wilson's head tonight. I put the blame on him. Kind of ironic that the first game with Stott/Wilson involved was Sutton at home and we drew 0-0 with the likes of Eddie Clarke, Archer and Mcalinden in the side plus the old guard, Turnbull, Cowan etc. Since then money has been thrown at things and the team tonight looked far inferior to the team of a year ago. Something very wrong here. |
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Post by dufflecoat on Feb 2, 2021 22:34:37 GMT
I'm not naturally warming to rusk in these interviews.
Maybe not surprising given I have no emotional attachment
I'd liken him to a doctor in a hospital. A little cold and clinical - but all I care about is that he makes be better....
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