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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2021 22:56:26 GMT
What’s the vibe like from the players on Jim’s sacking Chris? You won’t answer but worth a try. |
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Post by geordiehatter on Feb 2, 2021 23:00:45 GMT
I'm not naturally warming to rusk in these interviews. Maybe not surprising given I have no emotional attachment I'd liken him to a doctor in a hospital. A little cold and clinical - but all I care about is that he makes be better.... I can see the doctor analogy. Which is not necessarily a bad thing... Until the doctor changes his diagnosis half way through the operation and starts hacking away at your innards with the wrong set of scalpels (or his right hand scalpels in his left hand, and vice versa). And then in the postmortem afterwards, cheerfully places the blame on the General Medical Council, or the Editors of Lancet. And praises the member of his surgical backroom team whose most notable contribution to the theatre-show was to chop your liver out by mistake before storming off in a strop. Yeah.. that sort of doctor. |
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Post by scfc29 on Feb 2, 2021 23:03:07 GMT
I think the criticism of Hogan is harsh if not bordering on ridiculous. I think it all stems from rumours after the Hartlepool game that he himself rubbished. I get the impression he cares (I don’t get that from all the players) and sometimes it boils over.
If the people at the ground today are right and he did get the ball tonight he was unlucky. He’s clearly a good player for this level and also a good captain, he’s been very successful in this league before. There’s no doubt he’s rash and that’s his major weakness, if he wasn’t he’d probably be playing at a much higher level.
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Post by slomasscfc on Feb 2, 2021 23:04:29 GMT
We came up against a classic non league side tonight, 4-4-2, kept their shape and defended well so it worries me that we stuck to playing out from the back, especially on that pitch, and with ten men, and with 4 right footed defenders at the end. It was unfortunate Kitching went off, and while I understood Minihan going to left back and MSH to right back, it was strange that we had 2 right footed players on the left as they both wanted to come inside, it just made us even easier to play against as both players on our right had to either take too many touches or play the ball inside, I personally would have brought Stott on and Bennett should have came on much earlier. But he's a highly qualified coach so be knows a million times more than me. On the bright side this may do us a favour as Rusk will now know more about the squad and what needs fixing. I love Ash Palmer but he looked really poor when he came on, can't see him sticking around much longer unfortunately I agree with all your observations on players and shape there... Except for on Palmer though. I didn't see him put a foot wrong! Game of opinions, as they say.... Palmer turned too easily for the goal in what was another shit goal to conceded one lump forward and in to score again, Love Palmer but if we want to play from the back its not his style and his lack of pace means he needs plenty of protection from holding midfielders to shut space off so he isnt exposed 1 v 1, what he is very good at is winning his aerial battles and generally doing the basics very well |
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Post by geordiehatter on Feb 2, 2021 23:11:31 GMT
OK I can see your point there. Actually didn't realise it was Palmer got turned for the goal (don't know who I thought it was!)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2021 23:13:26 GMT
I think the criticism of Hogan is harsh if not bordering on ridiculous. I think it all stems from rumours after the Hartlepool game that he himself rubbished. I get the impression he cares (I don’t get that from all the players) and sometimes it boils over. If the people at the ground today are right and he did get the ball tonight he was unlucky. He’s clearly a good player for this level and also a good captain, he’s been very successful in this league before. There’s no doubt he’s rash and that’s his major weakness, if he wasn’t he’d probably be playing at a much higher level. You’re very trusting. I’m more inclined to believe someone on here who was right about the jig being up than a well rehearsed statement from a footballer. Maybe that’s just me. Anyway, im getting tired of moaning so I’ll just say I hope Eddie sorts it out and takes us the title and we’ll all be happy. Sam Minihan is right, there’s still lots of football to be played, not even half way through the season and we have the talent to get over the line. |
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Post by geordiehatter on Feb 2, 2021 23:17:14 GMT
I think the criticism of Hogan is harsh if not bordering on ridiculous. I think it all stems from rumours after the Hartlepool game that he himself rubbished. I get the impression he cares (I don’t get that from all the players) and sometimes it boils over. If the people at the ground today are right and he did get the ball tonight he was unlucky. He’s clearly a good player for this level and also a good captain, he’s been very successful in this league before. There’s no doubt he’s rash and that’s his major weakness, if he wasn’t he’d probably be playing at a much higher level. You’re very trusting. I’m more inclined to believe someone on here who was right about the jig being up than a well rehearsed statement from a footballer. Maybe that’s just me. Anyway, im getting tired of moaning so I’ll just say I hope Eddie sorts it out and takes us the title and we’ll all be happy. Sam Minihan is right, there’s still lots of football to be played, not even half way through the season and we have the talent to get over the line. Yes I'm with you on Minihan, he comes across as such an honest professional, actually one of those types who are incapable of lying/dissembling... So there is some comfort in hearing him describe the positivity in the squad and how he's learning things already from the new coach. I don't think he'd say those things if he didn't mean them. |
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Post by samscfc on Feb 2, 2021 23:17:28 GMT
We came up against a classic non league side tonight, 4-4-2, kept their shape and defended well so it worries me that we stuck to playing out from the back, especially on that pitch, and with ten men, and with 4 right footed defenders at the end. It was unfortunate Kitching went off, and while I understood Minihan going to left back and MSH to right back, it was strange that we had 2 right footed players on the left as they both wanted to come inside, it just made us even easier to play against as both players on our right had to either take too many touches or play the ball inside, I personally would have brought Stott on and Bennett should have came on much earlier. But he's a highly qualified coach so be knows a million times more than me. On the bright side this may do us a favour as Rusk will now know more about the squad and what needs fixing. I love Ash Palmer but he looked really poor when he came on, can't see him sticking around much longer unfortunately I agree with all your observations on players and shape there... Except for on Palmer though. I didn't see him put a foot wrong! Game of opinions, as they say.... It was really poor defending for the second goal and his distribution is so bad. Maybe I'm being harsh, I'll let him off as I love him. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2021 23:19:04 GMT
You’re very trusting. I’m more inclined to believe someone on here who was right about the jig being up than a well rehearsed statement from a footballer. Maybe that’s just me. Anyway, im getting tired of moaning so I’ll just say I hope Eddie sorts it out and takes us the title and we’ll all be happy. Sam Minihan is right, there’s still lots of football to be played, not even half way through the season and we have the talent to get over the line. Yes I'm with you on Minihan, he comes across as such an honest professional, actually one of those types who are incapable of lying/dissembling... So there is some comfort in hearing him describe the positivity in the squad and how he's learning things already from the new coach. I don't think he'd say those things if he didn't mean them. Interesting that he said it was an “enjoyable environment” around the new management team. |
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Post by desmond on Feb 2, 2021 23:19:33 GMT
Sam's interview makes me feel better. Becoming a distraction this red card, we were in no danger of winning tonight. Was always going to be a tight game tonight until we let “that” goal in. From that point on we struggled to get back into the game which is no shock I guess given their defensive abilities. |
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Post by geordiehatter on Feb 2, 2021 23:23:11 GMT
I agree with all your observations on players and shape there... Except for on Palmer though. I didn't see him put a foot wrong! Game of opinions, as they say.... It was really poor defending for the second goal and his distribution is so bad. Maybe I'm being harsh, I'll let him off as I love him. Oh his distribution is awful, no doubting that at all. But somehow I feel County isn't quite County without Ash Palmer carefully weighing up all options before clumping the ball ponderously up the inside right channel to nobody in particular, forty times a match. I also experience a slight frisson whenever he smacks a headed clearance away and that fringe of his momentarily flaps about like a netcurtain caught in the breeze.. and I'm not afraid to admit it. |
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Post by edjelley on Feb 2, 2021 23:23:34 GMT
I'm trying to think of anything positive at all to say. Nope. That was absolutely dogshit. I'm not going to start laying into Rusk, because he's been here five minutes. I'm not convinced tonight has much to do with him, in the same way I don't think Saturday was much to do with him. But where he got reserved praise from me then, he gets reserved criticism now. What really, genuinely angers me is that we lost this game primarily because of poor discipline. Ridiculous goal to concede for the opener, horrendous penalty to concede for the second, and the second is embarrassing. But red cards, yellows for dissent... dear me. I didn't understand Rusk's substitution at all, I will say that. Bizarre. And he needs to stamp some authority on these lot, or he's on a hiding to nothing. It's far too early to judge Rusk, but I have seen enough of some of these players to know I don't want them here any more. For me, Hogan can't be down the road soon enough. I wouldn't be upset to see Rooney gone either. The Gannon decision aside, there's something really not right about this club at the moment. Progress under the old ownership was slow, but we at least knew we were getting bang for our (or more accurately, their) buck. They maximised what we could get out of everything. Now we seem to be profligate, wasteful, assembling a team full of gobshites who aren't up for the fight. I'd love to be in Simon Wilson's head tonight. I put the blame on him. I have seen all sorts of interpretations of his dreadful interview on here. The way I read it is that he was given an almighty bollocking from the fall out of his decision. I reckon he will be under even more pressure now, and I've said on here before that I hope he'll be gone in 4 to 6 weeks having recovered his poise and got a new job. I think after tonight it's not odds on, but its certainly more likely. Which interview is this? Are you referring to Wilson?Have i missed one? |
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Post by countybumpkin on Feb 2, 2021 23:38:04 GMT
We've lost 2-0 to a side up there with us, so embarrassing and pathetic as I've read is a bit strong. We were probably the better side for the first 30 mins (without creating too much), and we've then been hit by a freak goal. But for that, 0-0 at Half Time would probably have been fair. Half Time we've been forced in to a reshuffle, which the Manager probably got wrong with hindsight, and 2nd Half was then very poor. Might we have played better / got a better result under Gannon? Maybe. Might the outcome have been pretty much the same? Maybe. Gannon obviously would’ve known the players better and consequently would’ve been able to shuffle the pack better or change the system. That’s obviously because he was in situ and it’s obviously why people are completely pissed off that Wilson obviously had his own agenda and obviously means Rusk, as it stands, will be given next to no leeway. Because of Wilson. |
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Post by ebbs on Feb 2, 2021 23:40:59 GMT
I have seen all sorts of interpretations of his dreadful interview on here. The way I read it is that he was given an almighty bollocking from the fall out of his decision. I reckon he will be under even more pressure now, and I've said on here before that I hope he'll be gone in 4 to 6 weeks having recovered his poise and got a new job. I think after tonight it's not odds on, but its certainly more likely. Which interview is this? Are you referring to Wilson?Have i missed one? He did an interview when they introduced Rusk. It was dreadful, and he just looked really embarrassed. Not sure that I agree with him getting a bollocking for the fall out for the decision about Gannon which most people seem to think was his, but I don't know what he adds and wouldn't be disappointed if he left in any circumstances. |
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Post by PSP on Feb 3, 2021 0:47:07 GMT
I’ve always thought that Hogan, Maynard, Rooney were not typical Jim Gannon profile players. It’s their discipline that’s always in question. 2 things I’ve often thought is were these 3 forced on Jim and was he put under pressure to play them. We may never know. Lois Maynard is not fit to lace Sam Walkers boots.
Well Jim didn't sound unhappy when we signed Rooney.
Manager Jim Gannon said:
“We are all delighted John has joined us at County. I think this signing is a real statement of intent on behalf of Stockport County. In my recent squad update I had highlighted a strong desire to add goals, creativity and quality to our front line. In that regard Simon Wilson has been working tirelessly behind the scenes to attract players, that we can be regarded as amongst the best in the League.”
“As a team we needed to add a player with both creativity and attack intent from midfield. In that regard John Rooney is the stand out player in the National League for goals from midfield. His record last season was exceptional. Its not just the number of goals, assists and set play quality that makes John a stand out player in this league. He also brings a level of football involvement and leadership that helps a team play to a high standard.”
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