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Post by suedehead on Feb 3, 2021 9:17:48 GMT
Regardless of the sending off and the penalty, which was saved by the way, does anyone think we were going to turn that result around?. Barring the first 10/15 minutes where we looked OK, after that we were dire. Having Hogan on the pitch wouldn't have changed the result. The system and style of play was all wrong and given the goal thay had gifted to them to defend they looked like they had a  on. Agree with that. It's not like the Hogan sending off changed the game and we lost because of that, we'd done absolutely nothing in the second half when Hogan went, and the last 20/25 mins of the first half was the same. Sutton were a decent, organised side but nothing outstanding. But we never looked like hurting them at all. The sending off obviously diminished our chances of getting something from the game but we were definitely second best when it happened. And aside from the penalty, the number of cheap stupid free kicks we gave away in our half was astounding. That will cost us if we continue that in the rest of our games. |
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Post by captainclutch on Feb 3, 2021 9:19:18 GMT
On another night one of Rooney's early efferts would have gone in and Ben would have launched that backpass up the pitch, the ref wouldn't have sent Hogan off for what now appears to have been a good tackle and we'd all be happy tonight, fine margins. Not sure we watched the same game. We were terrible throughout to my mind. No cutting edge, no creativity, no quality. We just knock it about with no plan and then get caught hugely exposed by giving the ball cheaply. What's deeply concerning is that it's been like this in every game against the top sides. We might only be halfway through the season but with that kind of record against the top sides, realistically we aren't going to win the title. I actually know last night's ref pretty well (through refereeing and mutual friends) so I was pretty tempted to message him to ask what actually went on with the whole penalty situation, though he probably wouldn't have been able to comment. I'd be interested to see the other angle of the penalty but as many havr said, on the stream it looked pretty stonewall. Even if Hogan did get a touch, it was a rash tackle and one that he probably wouldn't have made with Jim watching on the sideline. On the positive side, it was good to see McGhee put his arm round Hinchliffe going into the tunnel after his howler. That was about it, to be honest. |
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Post by timberwolf on Feb 3, 2021 9:38:14 GMT
Agree with that. It's not like the Hogan sending off changed the game and we lost because of that, we'd done absolutely nothing in the second half when Hogan went, and the last 20/25 mins of the first half was the same. Sutton were a decent, organised side but nothing outstanding. But we never looked like hurting them at all. The sending off obviously diminished our chances of getting something from the game but we were definitely second best when it happened. And aside from the penalty, the number of cheap stupid free kicks we gave away in our half was astounding. That will cost us if we continue that in the rest of our games. 1st half i thought they were as average as us and at least we did create a few half chances. goodness knows what went on in the dressing rooms at half time but we looked worse than the weymouth game. in fact we looked worse than the hartlepool game whene had 9 on the pitch. for me reid does not as good for a start without bennett in the side but i,m not just picking him out. MSH had a decent game as kitching did when he was on. the rest certainly owe us and their manager after that dull lifeless affair with no heart. prefer to sleep on it after any game before making a comment, but that second half must have given others a reminder of the bad old young days with sendings off, cautions and the free kicks. thats bad enough but if the side showed a bit of real guts and heart you could forgive it. |
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Post by Count de Stockport on Feb 3, 2021 9:39:07 GMT
I remember in the weeks after we'd brought in Hogan and Maynard someone summed up our newfound financial clout by saying that we were effectively 'bullying' Salford by nabbing their star players.
It was a nice thought at the time, but now I'm beginning to suspect they were cast-offs...
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Post by timberwolf on Feb 3, 2021 9:41:18 GMT
So Wilson forced Jim to have Rooney in the side. Jesus how unfair to be given the best player in the league. Shocking. plus all the fans being up in arms about his signing. |
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Post by PSP on Feb 3, 2021 9:43:37 GMT
Brilliant signings when they arrived. Shit signings when Jim loses his job.
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Post by AllyF on Feb 3, 2021 9:46:20 GMT
I remember in the weeks after we'd brought in Hogan and Maynard someone summed up our newfound financial clout by saying that we were effectively 'bullying' Salford by nabbing their star players. It was a nice thought at the time, but now I'm beginning to suspect they were cast-offs... On the latest series of the Salford documentary, Gary Neville is tearing his hair out at how bad their defence was for most of it. The programme features more on Piergianni who moves on to Oldham during it, but Hogan and Maynard were also part of that defensive set up. |
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Post by banky on Feb 3, 2021 9:49:53 GMT
I'd be surprised if that red card is overturned. The only angle will be the one from the stream and it looked a blatant penalty. It'll be worth looking at again when the "highlights" are out, but I can't see how he blatantly got the ball. The club has footage from the other side of the ground and it was a perfectly timed challenge. He won the ball. Regardless of whether he won the ball or not, he made a genuine attempt to play it, and the rule says that’s a yellow card in the penalty area. The same challenge outside of the area that denies a clear goal scoring opportunity would be a red. It’s because it was a penalty that it should’ve been a yellow. |
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Post by Duncan McOchin on Feb 3, 2021 9:49:57 GMT
I'd be surprised if that red card is overturned. The only angle will be the one from the stream and it looked a blatant penalty. It'll be worth looking at again when the "highlights" are out, but I can't see how he blatantly got the ball. Can you get decisions overturned at this level? I mean, Ash's red at Hartlepool is one of the worst decisions I can ever remember, but it still stood. I guessed at the time that you either can't do it, or it's spectacularly unlikely to be overturned |
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Post by Duncan McOchin on Feb 3, 2021 10:06:22 GMT
I remember in the weeks after we'd brought in Hogan and Maynard someone summed up our newfound financial clout by saying that we were effectively 'bullying' Salford by nabbing their star players. It was a nice thought at the time, but now I'm beginning to suspect they were cast-offs... Hogan had started to eliminate the rash challenges from his game, Maynard had put in some MotM performances the last couple of months, I don't see how they'd be sub-par signings? They were mainstays oF JG's side, even built a back 3 to accomodate Hogan & kept choosing Maynard over Keane... I don't buy that idea at all |
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Post by edjelley on Feb 3, 2021 10:12:47 GMT
I thought it looked bad on the stream. He should have stayed on his feet and he is experienced enough to know that. It was a bad day at the office all round. Focus should be on getting it right for Saturday now. Correct. It's all about how the team react now. Some of the comments about Rusk not being up to it are bizarre. Let's not pretend most of the performances all season have been that good. Someone even put a 'Rusk out' thread up which i assumed was a piss take but it wasn't. The bloke has probably taken 3 training sessions!! However as someone else has said,the p.r. hasn't been great and when nobody can attend the ground as fans,it is even more important to communicate and explain. |
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Post by gibbo on Feb 3, 2021 10:18:43 GMT
Agree with that. It's not like the Hogan sending off changed the game and we lost because of that, we'd done absolutely nothing in the second half when Hogan went, and the last 20/25 mins of the first half was the same. Sutton were a decent, organised side but nothing outstanding. But we never looked like hurting them at all. Equally, not sure we'd have lost the game but for the freak Own Goal, as it's not like they were clearly better than us up to that point. |
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Post by Nik on Feb 3, 2021 10:22:20 GMT
Agree with that. It's not like the Hogan sending off changed the game and we lost because of that, we'd done absolutely nothing in the second half when Hogan went, and the last 20/25 mins of the first half was the same. Sutton were a decent, organised side but nothing outstanding. But we never looked like hurting them at all. Equally, not sure we'd have lost the game but for the freak Own Goal, as it's not like they were clearly better than us up to that point. That's a fair point; it was fairly even up until that happened. Nothing inspiring, mind you, but it was a fairly even game. |
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Post by stewart on Feb 3, 2021 10:37:31 GMT
The club has footage from the other side of the ground and it was a perfectly timed challenge. He won the ball. Have you seen it? Our manager thought it was a well timed tackle and not a penalty. |
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Post by Nik on Feb 3, 2021 10:53:22 GMT
Our manager thought it was a well timed tackle and not a penalty. It may well have been, however unless any of us have seen it ourselves then we cannot say factually that it was. |
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