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Post by suedehead on May 10, 2024 10:03:14 GMT
I like it. There’s way too many cars on Castle Street. Hopefully this encourages more pedestrians, people sitting outside and discourages driving. I think it looks a bit shit tbh and a solution which solves nothing. They should just do it properly imo and pedestrianise castle street. I don’t quite get why they split up castle street as well - half baked solutions always end up solving nothing. Agree, but it's a step in the right direction. Suspect there'd be more businesses looking to do it but a lot don't lend themselves to outdoor eating/drinking.
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Post by Ngard on May 10, 2024 10:04:32 GMT
I think it looks a bit shit tbh and a solution which solves nothing. They should just do it properly imo and pedestrianise castle street. I don’t quite get why they split up castle street as well - half baked solutions always end up solving nothing. Agree, but it's a step in the right direction. Suspect there'd be more businesses looking to do it but a lot don't lend themselves to outdoor eating/drinking. Yes saw your later post and agree. Hopefully it materialises into something other than the example of Cheadle. They’ve had something similar for a few years and nothing came of it.
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Post by Henry Pratt on May 10, 2024 10:04:39 GMT
Agreed. Pedestrianise the whole thing, spend some money on tarting it up as above, then try and ride the wave of County's success by making it a bit of a destination place. Underbanks, Market Place, Castle Street... Another of Stockport's trendy places for a coffee/night out. I know, I know, it's Castle Street. but you don't achieve anything if you don't try, and fair play to that councillor Yep. I agree with you that the whole thing should be closed to cars. There's no need to have to drive down Castle Street. Mercian Way takes you from A to B and there's several roads running parallel to Castle Street at the back too. There's plenty of money in Edgeley and Stockport now, but those I know who live there laugh when I talk about Castle Street and just ignore it other than nipping to the Co-op. One outdoor seating area isn't going to change things but it's a positive step. There's still plenty to be done with restricting the types of business that wants to open/encouraging or incentivising other, improving the public spaces, even down to using planters for more greenery etc. But none of that will happen while there's still cars flying down there, takeaway drivers double parking, cheap vape shops and dog meat takeaways. There's an expectation that Stott's investment in County goes hand in hand with upgrading the area; I can't remember if that's been explicitly stated or just assumed, but a regeneration based on Castle Street would be great. Edgeley's such a great place for buyers across the whole range from first time buyers, to 2nd- or 3rd-time buyers too. And it's close to the town centre, and the station. Castle Street really is one of the few pimples on the arse of a really nice part of town. Obviously there's a worry that if you upgrade and gentrify it, you might push house prices out of reach, and I'm not sure I'd want the Seleção crowd moving in. I dunno, though - maybe there's enough housing stock to absorb that? Either way, a resurgent County and a resurgent Castle Street/Edgeley is hopefully something we see in the next few years.
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Post by hedleyverity on May 10, 2024 10:07:24 GMT
There is as lots of talk when Stott took over that it ws part of wider plans, but Vita don’t seem to have had anything to do with any of the proposed developments in Stockport so far
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Post by timberwolf on May 10, 2024 10:21:41 GMT
I think it looks a bit shit tbh and a solution which solves nothing. They should just do it properly imo and pedestrianise castle street. I don’t quite get why they split up castle street as well - half baked solutions always end up solving nothing. Agree, but it's a step in the right direction. Suspect there'd be more businesses looking to do it but a lot don't lend themselves to outdoor eating/drinking. Then there is the weather plus those who prefer eating and drinking inside. Its castle street at the end of the day and not a seaside or tourist spot with good weather the majority of the year. For some i wonder whats the most off putting. Traffic or lads on the piss being loud drinking outside when they are passing even if its totally pedstrianised.
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Post by suedehead on May 10, 2024 10:33:13 GMT
Agree, but it's a step in the right direction. Suspect there'd be more businesses looking to do it but a lot don't lend themselves to outdoor eating/drinking. Then there is the weather plus those who prefer eating and drinking inside. Its castle street at the end of the day and not a seaside or tourist spot with good weather the majority of the year. For some i wonder whats the most off putting. Traffic or lads on the piss being loud drinking outside when they are passing even if its totally pedstrianised. Let's not bother then. Just leave it as the shithole that it is. If people want to eat inside there's hundreds of seats and tables, nobody is forcing anyone to go outside.
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Post by timberwolf on May 10, 2024 11:00:24 GMT
Then there is the weather plus those who prefer eating and drinking inside. Its castle street at the end of the day and not a seaside or tourist spot with good weather the majority of the year. For some i wonder whats the most off putting. Traffic or lads on the piss being loud drinking outside when they are passing even if its totally pedstrianised. Let's not bother then. Just leave it as the shithole that it is. If people want to eat inside there's hundreds of seats and tables, nobody is forcing anyone to go outside. Unless you knock it all down and start from scratch it will be just a street you,ll see in many towns in the country. Really who is just going to castle street if you live on the other side or out of the town because you can eat and drink outside on a wet wednesday. They have spent a great deal on church street in hartlepool by doing this down to repaving and putting sets down the road by gentryfing the place without extra footfall apart on the odd warm day. Its fine banning it from traffic but throwing the amount of money thats really needed could be better spent for me. Somehow with these schemes they never know where to stop and when and could be a financial snowball going down the hill with very little return for local residents.
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Post by suedehead on May 10, 2024 11:23:29 GMT
Let's not bother then. Just leave it as the shithole that it is. If people want to eat inside there's hundreds of seats and tables, nobody is forcing anyone to go outside. Unless you knock it all down and start from scratch it will be just a street you,ll see in many towns in the country. Really who is just going to castle street if you live on the other side or out of the town because you can eat and drink outside on a wet wednesday. They have spent a great deal on church street in hartlepool by doing this down to repaving and putting sets down the road by gentryfing the place without extra footfall apart on the odd warm day. Its fine banning it from traffic but throwing the amount of money thats really needed could be better spent for me. Somehow with these schemes they never know where to stop and when and could be a financial snowball going down the hill with very little return for local residents. Pedestrianising a bit of the street isn't likely to have much impact. But, as I've said earlier, as part of a wider plan to close the street to traffic, incentivise certain businesses, improve the realm etc then it can have a massive impact. Stockport is booming. You'd probably have said the same thing about the town centre ten years ago. Same with Alty, Sale etc - all areas that have boomed recently. And while there's money in Sale and Alty, the principle is the same. And Edgeley has plenty of money in it too.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on May 10, 2024 12:21:43 GMT
I like it. There’s way too many cars on Castle Street. Hopefully this encourages more pedestrians, people sitting outside and discourages driving. I think it looks a bit shit tbh and a solution which solves nothing. They should just do it properly imo and pedestrianise castle street. I don’t quite get why they split up castle street as well - half baked solutions always end up solving nothing. It’s not meant as the long term permanent solution. It’s a trial which could end up with a long term solution at the end of it.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on May 10, 2024 12:23:47 GMT
Yep. I agree with you that the whole thing should be closed to cars. There's no need to have to drive down Castle Street. Mercian Way takes you from A to B and there's several roads running parallel to Castle Street at the back too. There's plenty of money in Edgeley and Stockport now, but those I know who live there laugh when I talk about Castle Street and just ignore it other than nipping to the Co-op. One outdoor seating area isn't going to change things but it's a positive step. There's still plenty to be done with restricting the types of business that wants to open/encouraging or incentivising other, improving the public spaces, even down to using planters for more greenery etc. But none of that will happen while there's still cars flying down there, takeaway drivers double parking, cheap vape shops and dog meat takeaways. There's an expectation that Stott's investment in County goes hand in hand with upgrading the area; I can't remember if that's been explicitly stated or just assumed, but a regeneration based on Castle Street would be great. Edgeley's such a great place for buyers across the whole range from first time buyers, to 2nd- or 3rd-time buyers too. And it's close to the town centre, and the station. Castle Street really is one of the few pimples on the arse of a really nice part of town. Obviously there's a worry that if you upgrade and gentrify it, you might push house prices out of reach, and I'm not sure I'd want the Seleção crowd moving in. I dunno, though - maybe there's enough housing stock to absorb that? Either way, a resurgent County and a resurgent Castle Street/Edgeley is hopefully something we see in the next few years. I’m hoping to move to Edgeley in a few years as properties in the area tend to tick the boxes I have. I’d love a regenerated Castle Street even for non County days. Just need those house prices to hold off from skyrocketing a little longer!
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Post by Count de Stockport on May 10, 2024 12:26:04 GMT
That new takeaway sneaking into view on the left, Phat Ladz, is one of the most Edgeley things I’ve seen in a long time. Phat Ladz. Has Alzbarberz changed careers?
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Post by hedleyverity on May 10, 2024 12:30:12 GMT
That new takeaway sneaking into view on the left, Phat Ladz, is one of the most Edgeley things I’ve seen in a long time. Phat Ladz. Has Alzbarberz changed careers? Food might not be the best move for him, not if they serve chicken anyway
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Post by The Real Exile on May 10, 2024 12:34:31 GMT
There's an expectation that Stott's investment in County goes hand in hand with upgrading the area; I can't remember if that's been explicitly stated or just assumed, but a regeneration based on Castle Street would be great. Edgeley's such a great place for buyers across the whole range from first time buyers, to 2nd- or 3rd-time buyers too. And it's close to the town centre, and the station. Castle Street really is one of the few pimples on the arse of a really nice part of town. Obviously there's a worry that if you upgrade and gentrify it, you might push house prices out of reach, and I'm not sure I'd want the Seleção crowd moving in. I dunno, though - maybe there's enough housing stock to absorb that? Either way, a resurgent County and a resurgent Castle Street/Edgeley is hopefully something we see in the next few years. I’m hoping to move to Edgeley in a few years as properties in the area tend to tick the boxes I have. I’d love a regenerated Castle Street even for non County days. Just need those house prices to hold off from skyrocketing a little longer! Prices are already way higher than they were, circa 210k for a 2 up 2 down, there is one in Marple Bridge for the same price😯
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Post by Imposter on May 10, 2024 14:45:49 GMT
There's an expectation that Stott's investment in County goes hand in hand with upgrading the area; I can't remember if that's been explicitly stated or just assumed, but a regeneration based on Castle Street would be great. Edgeley's such a great place for buyers across the whole range from first time buyers, to 2nd- or 3rd-time buyers too. And it's close to the town centre, and the station. Castle Street really is one of the few pimples on the arse of a really nice part of town. Obviously there's a worry that if you upgrade and gentrify it, you might push house prices out of reach, and I'm not sure I'd want the Seleção crowd moving in. I dunno, though - maybe there's enough housing stock to absorb that? Either way, a resurgent County and a resurgent Castle Street/Edgeley is hopefully something we see in the next few years. I’m hoping to move to Edgeley in a few years as properties in the area tend to tick the boxes I have. I’d love a regenerated Castle Street even for non County days. Just need those house prices to hold off from skyrocketing a little longer! Buy now, gentrify later? 😉
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Post by Stranded Hatter on May 10, 2024 14:53:24 GMT
I’m hoping to move to Edgeley in a few years as properties in the area tend to tick the boxes I have. I’d love a regenerated Castle Street even for non County days. Just need those house prices to hold off from skyrocketing a little longer! Prices are already way higher than they were, circa 210k for a 2 up 2 down, there is one in Marple Bridge for the same price😯 I’m aware. 200-220k is about the region I’ve been looking at for a couple of years from now. A lot can change between now and then mind you (it’s also possible flats in SK1 might jump up too…)
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