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Post by Philcounty on Aug 19, 2024 16:32:30 GMT
Long way to go and no reason why Ben can't reclaim the no.1 shirt before the season ends but it's been a good start. Addai has looked a little better with his feet playing short, though did have the clanger vs Cambridge. I'd like to see him dominate his box a little more too (though has made some good claims so far). He's also made saves when called upon and we haven't seen any of the indecision of a backline with a new keeper, like when Ross came in. He's really likeable as you say and I was pleased that he got a massive clap (and a smattering of boos) when he ran out in front of the CE. We have two great options first and foremost, with the added bonus of one being a club legend and the other with plenty of potential to grow (as well as 2 other very young GKs on the books). That error v Cambridge could prove pivotal to Corey, made a poor error but then retrieved it with a great block. If that shot had gone in I’m sure he’d have faced a lot of criticism for it and possibly dented his confidence right at the outset. He probably would have, but you'd hope the second assist for the Barry goal would have given him some credit in the bank. Only just thought about it, but that's 2 goals in 2 games that came from Addai's long kick. Addai - Wootton - Barry against Cambridge and Addai - Wootton - Tanto against Blackpool. Long may that continue.
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Post by Count de Stockport on Aug 19, 2024 19:33:25 GMT
Long way to go and no reason why Ben can't reclaim the no.1 shirt before the season ends but it's been a good start. Addai has looked a little better with his feet playing short, though did have the clanger vs Cambridge. I'd like to see him dominate his box a little more too (though has made some good claims so far). He's also made saves when called upon and we haven't seen any of the indecision of a backline with a new keeper, like when Ross came in. He's really likeable as you say and I was pleased that he got a massive clap (and a smattering of boos) when he ran out in front of the CE. We have two great options first and foremost, with the added bonus of one being a club legend and the other with plenty of potential to grow (as well as 2 other very young GKs on the books). That error v Cambridge could prove pivotal to Corey, made a poor error but then retrieved it with a great block. If that shot had gone in I’m sure he’d have faced a lot of criticism for it and possibly dented his confidence right at the outset. But instead, he dealt with it with such cool confidence. I already like him!
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Aug 19, 2024 20:18:23 GMT
With the recent success of the Camps and Bate double pivot, could we be looking for another ball playing CM for competition/rotation (rather than a more of a physical destroyer/ball carrier)? Or does DC trust Powell to be that cover or would he tweak the shape?
Collar, Fiorini (I think) and Bailey can all play CM but are more hybrid 8/10s looking to receive the ball a bit further up the pitch and make higher risk dribbles or passes.
Mingi, Onyango and Connolly should all be able to play there too but I doubt would be as comfortable on the ball and more "destroyers".
Really with 9 players capable of playing in a 3-man midfield that should be enough (I feel we're less likely to use the diamond this season with plenty of forward options and wingers in the squad and 3-4-3 could be unbalanced). We could play 1 holding with 2 8/10s as we've done plenty of times before too but Bate and Camps have started the season as two key players for us and are putting in a shift in both defence and attack.
Without the left side slot in a diamond, I can see DC using Powell to rotate with Bate or Camps and leaving the more advanced role to someone who can press a bit more. Does he have enough discipline though? Would DC trust him at 1-0 in a game where Bate/Camps are tiring and on a yellow? I don't know. I've also been vocal previously about getting Powell further up the pitch where he can hurt teams.
Appreciate it's a bit of a rhetorical question / ramble but I've got County on the brain currently. We also need a RB!
Edit - It's probably a shift to a no.4 and two 8/10s or Bate/Camps alongside Onyango (or similar) and a shift to a slightly more direct style given the makeup of the squad. Just thought it was an open question work asking.
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Post by slomasscfc on Aug 19, 2024 20:46:01 GMT
With the recent success of the Camps and Bate double pivot, could we be looking for another ball playing CM for competition/rotation (rather than a more of a physical destroyer/ball carrier)? Or does DC trust Powell to be that cover or would he tweak the shape? Collar, Fiorini (I think) and Bailey can all play CM but are more hybrid 8/10s looking to receive the ball a bit further up the pitch and make higher risk dribbles or passes. Mingi, Onyango and Connolly should all be able to play there too but I doubt would be as comfortable on the ball and more "destroyers". Really with 9 players capable of playing in a 3-man midfield that should be enough (I feel we're less likely to use the diamond this season with plenty of forward options and wingers in the squad and 3-4-3 could be unbalanced). We could play 1 holding with 2 8/10s as we've done plenty of times before too but Bate and Camps have started the season as two key players for us and are putting in a shift in both defence and attack. Without the left side slot in a diamond, I can see DC using Powell to rotate with Bate or Camps and leaving the more advanced role to someone who can press a bit more. Does he have enough discipline though? Would DC trust him at 1-0 in a game where Bate/Camps are tiring and on a yellow? I don't know. I've also been vocal previously about getting Powell further up the pitch where he can hurt teams. Appreciate it's a bit of a rhetorical question / ramble but I've got County on the brain currently. We also need a RB! Its a strange one really as all pre season we looked like we wanted to play 3-4-3 when i've said several times our personnel suits a 4231 which we've kind of fell into not too dissimilar to when injuries forced us into the diamond last year, for me we looked too open 343 leaving space down side of centre halves and in behind wingbacks when they go high The 4231 brings best out in Touray taking less onus on him to be an attacking force and similar in being able to play Mingi on other side that gives us a solid base to work from, we could have more expansive options in Rydel/Adaramola and MSH/Knoyle when they return ive never felt MSH or Knoyle ever been found wanting defensively but not sure bout Rydel there would prefer him over Touray if moved back 3 though That solid base of a 4 with a double pivot in front has nice balance with Bate and Camps both equally comfortable sitting as they are an 8 when they get chance for one to jump out of that pivot going forward Against better sides a Mingi or an Onyango may be needed in there though getting Connolly back with his versatilty to play in a back 3, right back in a 4 or as defensive midfielder allows us to balance an injury where necessary We then have terrific options across the 3 with Barry and Diamond able to invert off the left and Fevrier and Bailey and possibly Diamond who looks like can play off either side reasonably well or playing them as natural wingers if we need to stretch the pitch Then have Collar higher to make those high volumes of runs beyond where he is so dangerous Players like Powell would be comfortable deeper or at the number 10 position, similarly a technician like Fiorini, Bailey perhaps could play as a 10 too but what we are these days is very well drilled in moving off shape and posing different problems to teams within a game Stretton is almost a utility forward that can play anywhere across front 4 positions, then up top got Wootton as a traditional point man to bring that 3 into play or Tanto who has a range of traits that allow him to play as a different type of striker in 4231 he's strong as an ox but would be more effective against teams that play back 3 where he can get in down sides and run channels and pull defenders away for our inverted wingers to exploit the space left by marking him If we get those forward and wide options all fit and firing we really are going to be a nightmare and always give ourselves opportunities to score with the pace and talent at our disposal With defensive injuries i'd look to remain a 4, the 3 would need Mingi, Horse and Pye all fit to work to its optimal as Hughes has looked too slow play anywhere but middle of a 3 to me, naturally at min that would mean have to play Fevrier at RWB if we moved Mingi inside We've done well to recruit a range of traits and different characteristics in squad that will give us a Plan B, C and D within a game, lets just hope we can keep enough bodies fit and get some back to really bulk out those options
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Post by atmosphere on Aug 19, 2024 21:05:40 GMT
Did we ever get an update on the final diagnosis on Michael Mellon?
If he's able to be back in the next month or two I still think we could loan Stretton out. Stretton really needs games and minutes to get back to speed and I don't think he's going to get that here.
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Aug 19, 2024 21:09:34 GMT
With the recent success of the Camps and Bate double pivot, could we be looking for another ball playing CM for competition/rotation (rather than a more of a physical destroyer/ball carrier)? Or does DC trust Powell to be that cover or would he tweak the shape? Collar, Fiorini (I think) and Bailey can all play CM but are more hybrid 8/10s looking to receive the ball a bit further up the pitch and make higher risk dribbles or passes. Mingi, Onyango and Connolly should all be able to play there too but I doubt would be as comfortable on the ball and more "destroyers". Really with 9 players capable of playing in a 3-man midfield that should be enough (I feel we're less likely to use the diamond this season with plenty of forward options and wingers in the squad and 3-4-3 could be unbalanced). We could play 1 holding with 2 8/10s as we've done plenty of times before too but Bate and Camps have started the season as two key players for us and are putting in a shift in both defence and attack. Without the left side slot in a diamond, I can see DC using Powell to rotate with Bate or Camps and leaving the more advanced role to someone who can press a bit more. Does he have enough discipline though? Would DC trust him at 1-0 in a game where Bate/Camps are tiring and on a yellow? I don't know. I've also been vocal previously about getting Powell further up the pitch where he can hurt teams. Appreciate it's a bit of a rhetorical question / ramble but I've got County on the brain currently. We also need a RB! Its a strange one really as all pre season we looked like we wanted to play 3-4-3 when i've said several times our personnel suits a 4231 which we've kind of fell into not too dissimilar to when injuries forced us into the diamond last year, for me we looked too open 343 leaving space down side of centre halves and in behind wingbacks when they go high The 4231 brings best out in Touray taking less onus on him to be an attacking force and similar in being able to play Mingi on other side that gives us a solid base to work from, we could have more expansive options in Rydel/Adaramola and MSH/Knoyle when they return ive never felt MSH or Knoyle ever been found wanting defensively but not sure bout Rydel there would prefer him over Touray if moved back 3 though That solid base of a 4 with a double pivot in front has nice balance with Bate and Camps both equally comfortable sitting as they are an 8 when they get chance for one to jump out of that pivot going forward Against better sides a Mingi or an Onyango may be needed in there We then have terrific options across the 3 with Barry and Diamond able to invert off the left and Fevrier and Bailey and possibly Diamond who looks like can play off either side reasonably well or playing them as natural wingers if we need to stretch the pitch Then have Collar higher to make those high volumes of runs beyond where he is so dangerous Players like Powell would be comfortable deeper or at the number 10 position, similarly a technician like Fiorini, Bailey perhaps could play as a 10 too but what we are these days is very well drilled in moving off shape and posing different problems to teams within a game Stretton is almost a utility forward that can play anywhere across front 4 positions, then up top got Wootton as a traditional point man to bring that 3 into play or Tanto who has a range of traits that allow him to play as a different type of striker in 4231 he's strong as an ox but would be more effective against teams that play back 3 where he can get in down sides and run channels and pull defenders away for our inverted wingers to exploit the space left by marking him If we get those forward and wide options all fit and firing we really are going to be a nightmare and always give ourselves opportunities to score with the pace and talent at our disposal With defensive injuries i'd look to remain a 4, the 3 would need Mingi, Horse and Pye all fit to work to its optimal as Hughes has looked too slow play anywhere but middle of a 3 to me, naturally at min that would mean have to play Fevrier at RWB if we moved Mingi inside We've done well to recruit a range of traits and different characteristics in squad that will give us a Plan B, C and D within a game, lets just hope we can keep enough bodies fit and get some back to really bulk out those options Thank you for responding so I wasn't talking to myself! Currently, I think we play 3-4-1-2 as much as 4-2-3-1 with Diamond shifting to a very attacking RWB at times, especially when we attack, with Touray pushing up also. That seems to suit us and balance the midfield and the fears I had (and you express above) of being too easily broken on in a 3-4-3 - I didn't watch preseason but in the past it's been down the centre or just being outnumbered in CM. Fevrier also can play a similar role to Diamond and we can play two up top of Wootton, Tanto and Barry (or even Fevrier or Diamond), Camps and Bate as the base with Fiorini/Bailey/Collar. Then we've got enough going forward that the onus isn't on Touray to burst past someone. He can be effective by just knocking it into Barry and being there to cross it on the overlap when Barry draws 2 men inside. It will be interesting to see if DC sticks with it when more players are fit and to hear whether it was planned or it's something we've sort of been forced in to by injuries or preseason plans not working, like the diamond. I agree someone more physical with a bit more pace could be needed against better sides, but Camps and Bate's defensive output has really impressed me so far. It's high risk at times though both playing triangles deep in our half and going man to man to win the ball high rather than sit in front of the backline. Maybe we'd stick with them and their ability to play out vs Bolton away (or similar), just shift the line deeper and be less aggressive and look to play on the counter to Barry and Tanto? As you say, get everyone fit (Mellon is one I'm keen to see play and where he fits) and we have plenty of options, many with different profiles or versatile between positions that should give DC plenty at his disposal to make tweaks within game that he seems to love. Wootton has been key to our start so far but, if we lost him, I feel we'd just adjust as we did at the start of last season rather than play the same way without a no.9 (before the POs two seasons ago).
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Post by mat1scfc on Aug 19, 2024 21:17:47 GMT
There's a few formations that can work with all our players but ive always been a fan of 433 (4231 is very similar in my eyes, you just have different roles in midfield)
4231 depth, not in order
Gk - addai, hinchliffe, Metcalfe
Rb - mingi,knoyle,msh,connolly
Rcb - horsefall, hughes,onyango,mingi,connolly
Lcb - pye,hughes (lcb can be right footed in a four)
Lb - touray,Adaramola, rydel,pye
Dm/cm - bate,camps, mingi,connolly, onyango
Lw - barry, diamond, fevrier
Am - collar, bailey, powell,fiorini
Rw - fevrier, bailey, diamond
St - tanto, Wootton, Stretton, mellon
As much as i think we may need need a natural rwb/rb , i dont think we will see one. Its just a position where we will have to make do. Infact i think we are done for signings unless we get another big injury.
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Post by wnm on Aug 19, 2024 21:29:35 GMT
There's a few formations that can work with all our players but ive always been a fan of 433 (4231 is very similar in my eyes, you just have different roles in midfield) 4231 depth, not in order Gk - addai, hinchliffe, Metcalfe Rb - mingi,knoyle,msh,connolly Rcb - horsefall, hughes,onyango,mingi,connolly Lcb - pye,hughes (lcb can be right footed in a four) Lb - touray,Adaramola, rydel,pye Dm/cm - bate,camps, mingi,connolly, onyango Lw - barry, diamond, fevrier Am - collar, bailey, powell,fiorini Rw - fevrier, bailey, diamond St - tanto, Wootton, Stretton, mellon As much as i think we may need need a natural rwb/rb , i dont think we will see one. Its just a position where we will have to make do. Infact i think we are done for signings unless we get another big injury. Why is it a position we’ll have to make do? DC said a few days ago that we’re still looking to strengthen.
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Aug 19, 2024 21:33:36 GMT
There's a few formations that can work with all our players but ive always been a fan of 433 (4231 is very similar in my eyes, you just have different roles in midfield) 4231 depth, not in order Gk - addai, hinchliffe, Metcalfe Rb - mingi,knoyle,msh,connolly Rcb - horsefall, hughes,onyango,mingi,connolly Lcb - pye,hughes (lcb can be right footed in a four) Lb - touray,Adaramola, rydel,pye Dm/cm - bate,camps, mingi,connolly, onyango Lw - barry, diamond, fevrier Am - collar, bailey, powell,fiorini Rw - fevrier, bailey, diamond St - tanto, Wootton, Stretton, mellon As much as i think we may need need a natural rwb/rb , i dont think we will see one. Its just a position where we will have to make do. Infact i think we are done for signings unless we get another big injury. With you for most of that but at the Fans Forum the club said they were looking in response to the injuries (even though the planned business was done) and DC in his last prematch repeated that and then he'd like to bring players in. He also said how opportunities open up later on in the window where we weren't first choice and presumably where clubs want a replacement in first. I'll be surprised if it's a permanent - though not against it but, personally, we just have to bring in a RB. If you think of a squad lasting from window to window, you can cross Knoyle off the options. MSH is a big question mark both in terms how far he is away (he's not been mentioned as a near returner and players returning from much less significant injuries are taking a long time to come back) and how many minutes he'll be able to do on return, both easing him (which RWB isn't a great position for) and keeping him fit. Then we're left with hybrid players that we can make work but it isn't their natural position. Mingi is more of a RCB/RB that needs an attacking option in front of him and Fevrier/Collar the opposite needing a back 3 behind them and we'd rather play them further forward. Appreciate we can make do but it seems silly if we have the budget and very high risk with our injury record. Edit - I forgot Connolly but he's injured and reportedly has no pace so I think he'd struggle at fullback in a DC system.
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Post by mattyovrio on Aug 20, 2024 8:52:07 GMT
With the recent success of the Camps and Bate double pivot, could we be looking for another ball playing CM for competition/rotation (rather than a more of a physical destroyer/ball carrier)? Or does DC trust Powell to be that cover or would he tweak the shape? Collar, Fiorini (I think) and Bailey can all play CM but are more hybrid 8/10s looking to receive the ball a bit further up the pitch and make higher risk dribbles or passes. Mingi, Onyango and Connolly should all be able to play there too but I doubt would be as comfortable on the ball and more "destroyers". Really with 9 players capable of playing in a 3-man midfield that should be enough (I feel we're less likely to use the diamond this season with plenty of forward options and wingers in the squad and 3-4-3 could be unbalanced). We could play 1 holding with 2 8/10s as we've done plenty of times before too but Bate and Camps have started the season as two key players for us and are putting in a shift in both defence and attack. Without the left side slot in a diamond, I can see DC using Powell to rotate with Bate or Camps and leaving the more advanced role to someone who can press a bit more. Does he have enough discipline though? Would DC trust him at 1-0 in a game where Bate/Camps are tiring and on a yellow? I don't know. I've also been vocal previously about getting Powell further up the pitch where he can hurt teams. Appreciate it's a bit of a rhetorical question / ramble but I've got County on the brain currently. We also need a RB! Its a strange one really as all pre season we looked like we wanted to play 3-4-3 when i've said several times our personnel suits a 4231 which we've kind of fell into not too dissimilar to when injuries forced us into the diamond last year, for me we looked too open 343 leaving space down side of centre halves and in behind wingbacks when they go high The 4231 brings best out in Touray taking less onus on him to be an attacking force and similar in being able to play Mingi on other side that gives us a solid base to work from, we could have more expansive options in Rydel/Adaramola and MSH/Knoyle when they return ive never felt MSH or Knoyle ever been found wanting defensively but not sure bout Rydel there would prefer him over Touray if moved back 3 though That solid base of a 4 with a double pivot in front has nice balance with Bate and Camps both equally comfortable sitting as they are an 8 when they get chance for one to jump out of that pivot going forward Against better sides a Mingi or an Onyango may be needed in there though getting Connolly back with his versatilty to play in a back 3, right back in a 4 or as defensive midfielder allows us to balance an injury where necessary We then have terrific options across the 3 with Barry and Diamond able to invert off the left and Fevrier and Bailey and possibly Diamond who looks like can play off either side reasonably well or playing them as natural wingers if we need to stretch the pitch Then have Collar higher to make those high volumes of runs beyond where he is so dangerous Players like Powell would be comfortable deeper or at the number 10 position, similarly a technician like Fiorini, Bailey perhaps could play as a 10 too but what we are these days is very well drilled in moving off shape and posing different problems to teams within a game Stretton is almost a utility forward that can play anywhere across front 4 positions, then up top got Wootton as a traditional point man to bring that 3 into play or Tanto who has a range of traits that allow him to play as a different type of striker in 4231 he's strong as an ox but would be more effective against teams that play back 3 where he can get in down sides and run channels and pull defenders away for our inverted wingers to exploit the space left by marking him If we get those forward and wide options all fit and firing we really are going to be a nightmare and always give ourselves opportunities to score with the pace and talent at our disposal With defensive injuries i'd look to remain a 4, the 3 would need Mingi, Horse and Pye all fit to work to its optimal as Hughes has looked too slow play anywhere but middle of a 3 to me, naturally at min that would mean have to play Fevrier at RWB if we moved Mingi inside We've done well to recruit a range of traits and different characteristics in squad that will give us a Plan B, C and D within a game, lets just hope we can keep enough bodies fit and get some back to really bulk out those options It is credit to Chally how much he has come on as a manager. Going back to the Barrow first game of the season, was criticised (rightly) for waiting too long to make changes in game including the use of his subs. He also didn’t seem to have a Plan B when his (very good but not infallible) Plan A wasn’t working. Fast forward to now and we have a very fluid team with the ball and are able to tweak things in game. Chally isn’t dogmatic about things either, if something isn’t working he recognises it and stops doing it (Touray LCB a good example). His use of subs also vastly improved. He has for. As a manager with the club and risen to the challenges each higher division has posed. I will stick my neck out and say he will take us up this year and get poached by one of the big boys in the Championship.
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Post by mattyovrio on Aug 20, 2024 8:57:44 GMT
Its a strange one really as all pre season we looked like we wanted to play 3-4-3 when i've said several times our personnel suits a 4231 which we've kind of fell into not too dissimilar to when injuries forced us into the diamond last year, for me we looked too open 343 leaving space down side of centre halves and in behind wingbacks when they go high The 4231 brings best out in Touray taking less onus on him to be an attacking force and similar in being able to play Mingi on other side that gives us a solid base to work from, we could have more expansive options in Rydel/Adaramola and MSH/Knoyle when they return ive never felt MSH or Knoyle ever been found wanting defensively but not sure bout Rydel there would prefer him over Touray if moved back 3 though That solid base of a 4 with a double pivot in front has nice balance with Bate and Camps both equally comfortable sitting as they are an 8 when they get chance for one to jump out of that pivot going forward Against better sides a Mingi or an Onyango may be needed in there We then have terrific options across the 3 with Barry and Diamond able to invert off the left and Fevrier and Bailey and possibly Diamond who looks like can play off either side reasonably well or playing them as natural wingers if we need to stretch the pitch Then have Collar higher to make those high volumes of runs beyond where he is so dangerous Players like Powell would be comfortable deeper or at the number 10 position, similarly a technician like Fiorini, Bailey perhaps could play as a 10 too but what we are these days is very well drilled in moving off shape and posing different problems to teams within a game Stretton is almost a utility forward that can play anywhere across front 4 positions, then up top got Wootton as a traditional point man to bring that 3 into play or Tanto who has a range of traits that allow him to play as a different type of striker in 4231 he's strong as an ox but would be more effective against teams that play back 3 where he can get in down sides and run channels and pull defenders away for our inverted wingers to exploit the space left by marking him If we get those forward and wide options all fit and firing we really are going to be a nightmare and always give ourselves opportunities to score with the pace and talent at our disposal With defensive injuries i'd look to remain a 4, the 3 would need Mingi, Horse and Pye all fit to work to its optimal as Hughes has looked too slow play anywhere but middle of a 3 to me, naturally at min that would mean have to play Fevrier at RWB if we moved Mingi inside We've done well to recruit a range of traits and different characteristics in squad that will give us a Plan B, C and D within a game, lets just hope we can keep enough bodies fit and get some back to really bulk out those options Thank you for responding so I wasn't talking to myself! Currently, I think we play 3-4-1-2 as much as 4-2-3-1 with Diamond shifting to a very attacking RWB at times, especially when we attack, with Touray pushing up also. That seems to suit us and balance the midfield and the fears I had (and you express above) of being too easily broken on in a 3-4-3 - I didn't watch preseason but in the past it's been down the centre or just being outnumbered in CM. Fevrier also can play a similar role to Diamond and we can play two up top of Wootton, Tanto and Barry (or even Fevrier or Diamond), Camps and Bate as the base with Fiorini/Bailey/Collar. Then we've got enough going forward that the onus isn't on Touray to burst past someone. He can be effective by just knocking it into Barry and being there to cross it on the overlap when Barry draws 2 men inside. It will be interesting to see if DC sticks with it when more players are fit and to hear whether it was planned or it's something we've sort of been forced in to by injuries or preseason plans not working, like the diamond. I agree someone more physical with a bit more pace could be needed against better sides, but Camps and Bate's defensive output has really impressed me so far. It's high risk at times though both playing triangles deep in our half and going man to man to win the ball high rather than sit in front of the backline. Maybe we'd stick with them and their ability to play out vs Bolton away (or similar), just shift the line deeper and be less aggressive and look to play on the counter to Barry and Tanto? As you say, get everyone fit (Mellon is one I'm keen to see play and where he fits) and we have plenty of options, many with different profiles or versatile between positions that should give DC plenty at his disposal to make tweaks within game that he seems to love. Wootton has been key to our start so far but, if we lost him, I feel we'd just adjust as we did at the start of last season rather than play the same way without a no.9 (before the POs two seasons ago). When Woots is out for whatever reason, either Tanto will take his role or we will go split strikers same as last season before the LB injury I reckon.
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Post by timberwolf on Aug 20, 2024 9:00:22 GMT
That error v Cambridge could prove pivotal to Corey, made a poor error but then retrieved it with a great block. If that shot had gone in I’m sure he’d have faced a lot of criticism for it and possibly dented his confidence right at the outset. If i remember right he made a similar one as an opposition player at EP last season and went on to have a good game.
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Post by countyingermany on Aug 20, 2024 9:09:06 GMT
Its a strange one really as all pre season we looked like we wanted to play 3-4-3 when i've said several times our personnel suits a 4231 which we've kind of fell into not too dissimilar to when injuries forced us into the diamond last year, for me we looked too open 343 leaving space down side of centre halves and in behind wingbacks when they go high The 4231 brings best out in Touray taking less onus on him to be an attacking force and similar in being able to play Mingi on other side that gives us a solid base to work from, we could have more expansive options in Rydel/Adaramola and MSH/Knoyle when they return ive never felt MSH or Knoyle ever been found wanting defensively but not sure bout Rydel there would prefer him over Touray if moved back 3 though That solid base of a 4 with a double pivot in front has nice balance with Bate and Camps both equally comfortable sitting as they are an 8 when they get chance for one to jump out of that pivot going forward Against better sides a Mingi or an Onyango may be needed in there though getting Connolly back with his versatilty to play in a back 3, right back in a 4 or as defensive midfielder allows us to balance an injury where necessary We then have terrific options across the 3 with Barry and Diamond able to invert off the left and Fevrier and Bailey and possibly Diamond who looks like can play off either side reasonably well or playing them as natural wingers if we need to stretch the pitch Then have Collar higher to make those high volumes of runs beyond where he is so dangerous Players like Powell would be comfortable deeper or at the number 10 position, similarly a technician like Fiorini, Bailey perhaps could play as a 10 too but what we are these days is very well drilled in moving off shape and posing different problems to teams within a game Stretton is almost a utility forward that can play anywhere across front 4 positions, then up top got Wootton as a traditional point man to bring that 3 into play or Tanto who has a range of traits that allow him to play as a different type of striker in 4231 he's strong as an ox but would be more effective against teams that play back 3 where he can get in down sides and run channels and pull defenders away for our inverted wingers to exploit the space left by marking him If we get those forward and wide options all fit and firing we really are going to be a nightmare and always give ourselves opportunities to score with the pace and talent at our disposal With defensive injuries i'd look to remain a 4, the 3 would need Mingi, Horse and Pye all fit to work to its optimal as Hughes has looked too slow play anywhere but middle of a 3 to me, naturally at min that would mean have to play Fevrier at RWB if we moved Mingi inside We've done well to recruit a range of traits and different characteristics in squad that will give us a Plan B, C and D within a game, lets just hope we can keep enough bodies fit and get some back to really bulk out those options It is credit to Chally how much he has come on as a manager. Going back to the Barrow first game of the season, was criticised (rightly) for waiting too long to make changes in game including the use of his subs. He also didn’t seem to have a Plan B when his (very good but not infallible) Plan A wasn’t working. Fast forward to now and we have a very fluid team with the ball and are able to tweak things in game. Chally isn’t dogmatic about things either, if something isn’t working he recognises it and stops doing it (Touray LCB a good example). His use of subs also vastly improved. He has for. As a manager with the club and risen to the challenges each higher division has posed. I will stick my neck out and say he will take us up this year and get poached by one of the big boys in the Championship. Found his comments after the weekend interesting something along the lines of 'I wouldn't normally say this but told them to focus on how they play not the result' Told me that yes he wants to play good attacking entertaining football but not at the expense of results which is a trap a lot of modern managers fall into, the amount of teams that play pretty football but end up not achieving things - Notts County the best example - in 20 years time we're going to remember what we've won not the way we played out of the back
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Post by mattyovrio on Aug 20, 2024 9:43:06 GMT
That error v Cambridge could prove pivotal to Corey, made a poor error but then retrieved it with a great block. If that shot had gone in I’m sure he’d have faced a lot of criticism for it and possibly dented his confidence right at the outset. If i remember right he made a similar one as an opposition player at EP last season and went on to have a good game. All goalies make mistakes at times and bad ones occasionally - the really good goalies put it behind them.
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Post by Sina on Aug 20, 2024 10:02:53 GMT
With the recent success of the Camps and Bate double pivot, could we be looking for another ball playing CM for competition/rotation (rather than a more of a physical destroyer/ball carrier)? Or does DC trust Powell to be that cover or would he tweak the shape? Collar, Fiorini (I think) and Bailey can all play CM but are more hybrid 8/10s looking to receive the ball a bit further up the pitch and make higher risk dribbles or passes. Mingi, Onyango and Connolly should all be able to play there too but I doubt would be as comfortable on the ball and more "destroyers". Really with 9 players capable of playing in a 3-man midfield that should be enough (I feel we're less likely to use the diamond this season with plenty of forward options and wingers in the squad and 3-4-3 could be unbalanced). We could play 1 holding with 2 8/10s as we've done plenty of times before too but Bate and Camps have started the season as two key players for us and are putting in a shift in both defence and attack. Without the left side slot in a diamond, I can see DC using Powell to rotate with Bate or Camps and leaving the more advanced role to someone who can press a bit more. Does he have enough discipline though? Would DC trust him at 1-0 in a game where Bate/Camps are tiring and on a yellow? I don't know. I've also been vocal previously about getting Powell further up the pitch where he can hurt teams. Appreciate it's a bit of a rhetorical question / ramble but I've got County on the brain currently. We also need a RB! Edit - It's probably a shift to a no.4 and two 8/10s or Bate/Camps alongside Onyango (or similar) and a shift to a slightly more direct style given the makeup of the squad. Just thought it was an open question work asking. What about a quadruple pivot?!
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