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Post by johnsdentist on Aug 21, 2024 21:06:16 GMT
To be fair, it's abit daft him getting voted in the team of the season. Feel like he's got in that off reputation and the fact that we won the league (plus players are often not great watchers of the game themselves). I'm delighted for him that he's started this season really well but let's not pretend that he pulled up trees last season. As far as I can recall his season went something like... August to September - played out of position, looked pretty bad October to November - replaced by Pye at Left back, didn't play much as we went on our big run (he may have been injured but Pye definately took his place) November to Feb - came back into the team (ironically at the Newport game which was our first loss in ages) and really struggled all the way up to when he went to AFCON in January Feb to March - pretty solid from the Gillingham away 0-0 till he got injured April - didn't play much in the run in Aye. There is a strong argument to suggest he wouldn’t even make our team of the season. Glad he’s started this season looking like the player we expected though unsure if long term he’s the right fit for a team look to play quickly and sharply out from the back.
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Post by johnsdentist on Aug 21, 2024 21:07:53 GMT
Good luck to Touray . Hes started OK this season but you are having a larf if you think he was any good last season . there cant have been many decent left backs in EFL 2
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Post by desmond on Aug 21, 2024 21:13:56 GMT
Christ a County player picks up an award voted on by his fellow professionals and much of the thread becomes about how he isn’t really any good.
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Aug 21, 2024 21:26:10 GMT
Aye. There is a strong argument to suggest he wouldn’t even make our team of the season. Glad he’s started this season looking like the player we expected though unsure if long term he’s the right fit for a team look to play quickly and sharply out from the back. Most chances created so far with 5. 4th on successful passes per game behind Bate and the 2 CBs, admittedly from 2 games. When he's confident and played in position, I think he plays out from the back well. Him and Bate got us up the pitch with a lovely 1-2 before Barry's goal vs Blackpool. His issue is more that he doesn't have much pace so can't knock it around a man to break through the press or open up space further up the field. Playing with Barry ahead of him covers for that though. They compliment each other very well. Defensively he's started well too.
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Post by wnm on Aug 21, 2024 22:06:28 GMT
Most chances created so far with 5. 4th on successful passes per game behind Bate and the 2 CBs, admittedly from 2 games. When he's confident and played in position, I think he plays out from the back well. Him and Bate got us up the pitch with a lovely 1-2 before Barry's goal vs Blackpool. His issue is more that he doesn't have much pace so can't knock it around a man to break through the press or open up space further up the field. Playing with Barry ahead of him covers for that though. They compliment each other very well. Defensively he's started well too. I’m going off my eyes rather than stats. It’s not so much the passes he does play but the ones he doesn’t because he dwells or hesitates because he’s not always confident and it slows us down. I wasn’t at Blackpool but happened quite a few times against Cambridge on opening day. Defensively end of last season and start of this he’s been very solid and have no complaints on that score. I’d suggest he’s a good back up LB at L1 level and had our Crystal Palace loanee not suffered an injury that’s what he would be. If we’re sticking with a back four I’d definitely go Touray over the returning Rydel though.
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Aug 21, 2024 22:54:15 GMT
Most chances created so far with 5. 4th on successful passes per game behind Bate and the 2 CBs, admittedly from 2 games. When he's confident and played in position, I think he plays out from the back well. Him and Bate got us up the pitch with a lovely 1-2 before Barry's goal vs Blackpool. His issue is more that he doesn't have much pace so can't knock it around a man to break through the press or open up space further up the field. Playing with Barry ahead of him covers for that though. They compliment each other very well. Defensively he's started well too. I’m going off my eyes rather than stats. It’s not so much the passes he does play but the ones he doesn’t because he dwells or hesitates because he’s not always confident and it slows us down. I wasn’t at Blackpool but happened quite a few times against Cambridge on opening day. Defensively end of last season and start of this he’s been very solid and have no complaints on that score. I’d suggest he’s a good back up LB at L1 level and had our Crystal Palace loanee not suffered an injury that’s what he would be. If we’re sticking with a back four I’d definitely go Touray over the returning Rydel though. He was better vs Blackpool for me and very good defensively when Mingi and Pye got caught out at times. Better on the ball than Mingi too but what he doesn't have is the pace to beat a man. I agree Adaramola was probably the first choice and DC likes pace in his full/wingbacks. In fact, I was calling for the same. I do think Touray and Barry is a good pairing though. Rydel will need to be eased back in so will definitely be backup for a while.
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Post by timberwolf on Aug 22, 2024 8:33:09 GMT
If we’re sticking with a back four I’d definitely go Touray over the returning Rydel though. He was better vs Blackpool for me and very good defensively when Mingi and Pye got caught out at times. Better on the ball than Mingi too but what he doesn't have is the pace to beat a man. I agree Adaramola was probably the first choice and DC likes pace in his full/wingbacks. In fact, I was calling for the same. I do think Touray and Barry is a good pairing though. Rydel will need to be eased back in so will definitely be backup for a while. Rydel will need to be at his very best to start a league game and at the moment if he was available he might even struggle to make the bench.
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Post by atmosphere on Aug 22, 2024 8:41:32 GMT
I'm a massive Rydel fan, we already know he's a very good LWB and I believe he can become a good LB in a four.
But a concern for me is he's not played for 12 months and will need minutes to get himself going again. And I'm not sure we can offer those minutes off the bat. Stretton is the same. I'm starting to think both need a loan ideally. Problem is it's a risk for a L2 side because they'd be getting players who haven't played competitive minutes for a year.
They needed to get going in pre-season ideally but both picked up knocks. Pre-season could have allowed them to challenge for our team or prove to other clubs they're ready to hit the ground running for a L2 loan.
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Post by timberwolf on Aug 22, 2024 8:51:26 GMT
I'm a massive Rydel fan, we already know he's a very good LWB and I believe he can become a good LB in a four. But a concern for me is he's not played for 12 months and will need minutes to get himself going again. And I'm not sure we can offer those minutes off the bat. Stretton is the same. I'm starting to think both need a loan ideally. Problem is it's a risk for a L2 side because they'd be getting players who haven't played competitive minutes for a year. They needed to get going in pre-season ideally but both picked up knocks. Pre-season could have allowed them to challenge for our team or prove to other clubs they're ready to hit the ground running for a L2 loan. Two players mentioned where hardly missed last season by us and cannot see anybody but an accrington type of club being interested in having either on loan in league 2. Think its a case again with our players of heart ruling fans heads especially where Stretton is concerned.
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Post by wnm on Aug 22, 2024 9:09:36 GMT
I'm a massive Rydel fan, we already know he's a very good LWB and I believe he can become a good LB in a four. But a concern for me is he's not played for 12 months and will need minutes to get himself going again. And I'm not sure we can offer those minutes off the bat. Stretton is the same. I'm starting to think both need a loan ideally. Problem is it's a risk for a L2 side because they'd be getting players who haven't played competitive minutes for a year. They needed to get going in pre-season ideally but both picked up knocks. Pre-season could have allowed them to challenge for our team or prove to other clubs they're ready to hit the ground running for a L2 loan. We can’t loan Rydel out with one fit LB in the squad. I know Pye can also play there but that would mean bringing in Hughes who’s looked all over the place against Blackburn. The BSM trophy and development games is where Rydel can build up his fitness.
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Post by wnm on Aug 22, 2024 9:10:29 GMT
He was better vs Blackpool for me and very good defensively when Mingi and Pye got caught out at times. Better on the ball than Mingi too but what he doesn't have is the pace to beat a man. I agree Adaramola was probably the first choice and DC likes pace in his full/wingbacks. In fact, I was calling for the same. I do think Touray and Barry is a good pairing though. Rydel will need to be eased back in so will definitely be backup for a while. Rydel will need to be at his very best to start a league game and at the moment if he was available he might even struggle to make the bench. We had two keepers on the bench at the weekend.
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Post by popeye on Aug 22, 2024 9:40:01 GMT
I’m going off my eyes rather than stats. It’s not so much the passes he does play but the ones he doesn’t because he dwells or hesitates because he’s not always confident and it slows us down. I wasn’t at Blackpool but happened quite a few times against Cambridge on opening day. Defensively end of last season and start of this he’s been very solid and have no complaints on that score. I’d suggest he’s a good back up LB at L1 level and had our Crystal Palace loanee not suffered an injury that’s what he would be. If we’re sticking with a back four I’d definitely go Touray over the returning Rydel though. He was better vs Blackpool for me and very good defensively when Mingi and Pye got caught out at times. Better on the ball than Mingi too but what he doesn't have is the pace to beat a man. I agree Adaramola was probably the first choice and DC likes pace in his full/wingbacks. In fact, I was calling for the same. I do think Touray and Barry is a good pairing though. Rydel will need to be eased back in so will definitely be backup for a while. Do we actually know when we might see Adaramola playing again?
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Post by gibbo on Aug 22, 2024 9:49:13 GMT
Think its a case again with our players of heart ruling fans heads especially where Stretton is concerned. Disagree, just don't think we've seen enough of him to judge. Looked promising in that initial loan spell, and the club were pretty high on his potential when they brought him back. He scored the goal that got us to pens against Salford and nearly won it with that effort at Wembley, so we've seen moments from him, just not seen enough gametime from him.
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Aug 22, 2024 9:52:56 GMT
Rydel will need to be at his very best to start a league game and at the moment if he was available he might even struggle to make the bench. We had two keepers on the bench at the weekend. And a 17 year old. Hopefully Hughes and maybe Powell are back this weekend but we're still a bit off competition for the bench. I think our injury situation means both Stretton and Rydel will have to stay past the end of the window, both may not even be fit before that. The BSM minutes should come in handy and presumably there's the option of a NL loan? Many would have had Rydel ahead of Touray before the season started too and he gives us a more attacking option (as well as much needed cover) before Adaramola is back, end of September is my approximation. So I don't see a loan for him. We'll ease him back very gently too. Stretton maybe a NL loan depending on the Mellon news.
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Post by slomasscfc on Aug 22, 2024 10:41:07 GMT
I'm a massive Rydel fan, we already know he's a very good LWB and I believe he can become a good LB in a four. But a concern for me is he's not played for 12 months and will need minutes to get himself going again. And I'm not sure we can offer those minutes off the bat. Stretton is the same. I'm starting to think both need a loan ideally. Problem is it's a risk for a L2 side because they'd be getting players who haven't played competitive minutes for a year. They needed to get going in pre-season ideally but both picked up knocks. Pre-season could have allowed them to challenge for our team or prove to other clubs they're ready to hit the ground running for a L2 loan. We can keep Rydel and Stretton registered if we have room in the squad then we could I think loan them out to a NL league club to get minutes then recall them anytime after the first month to come back and play for us as they will still be registered, but if we sent them on loan to EFL club it would be window to window so January the earliest they could return
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