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Post by mustafapoint on Jul 16, 2024 11:32:21 GMT
If Jürgen Norbert Klopp gets the job, I think we can safely say that the time will never be dull.
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Post by gibbo on Jul 16, 2024 11:39:36 GMT
Its the right time but GS deserves credit for what he has done with the National team. He'll have his critics and perhaps some of it is justified but overall he's done a good job and left us in a better shape than when he started. Agree Lee, strange to say considering we've just made a Final, but think his reputation has been harmed by staying on for this tournament, would have been (at least now) held in higher regard leaving after we narrowly lost to France. As has been said a few times, history will likely judge him much more kindly when his reign is reflected upon in years to some.
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Post by kayem1 on Jul 16, 2024 11:39:38 GMT
Southgate leaving is like coming out of a communist regime. Some people liked it but most want a progressive society to enjoy. Enter Graham Potter and his tippy tappy sideways passing. Positive tippy tappy football though. GP did a cracking job at Brighton with unknown players. Brighton became a lot of fans second team because they loved to watch them play. Imagine what he could do with the young stars he will have at his disposal. All very positive in my opinion.
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Post by bigmartin on Jul 16, 2024 13:27:05 GMT
Why don't they give it to Sarina Wiegman (sp?)?
She's proven she's competent and understands the game hasn't she? And what a message for the wider world when it comes to Britain's leadership on issues of equality and the like?
Sad thing about Southgate. He's spoilt us. We're used to getting deep into tournaments now and people are pointing the finger and suggesting failure because he didn't win it. Which is really harsh because for the 30 years of my lifetime prior to him being in situ I recall either failure or absolute bloody dirge.
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Post by scfc29 on Jul 16, 2024 14:05:22 GMT
Why don't they give it to Sarina Wiegman (sp?)? She's proven she's competent and understands the game hasn't she? And what a message for the wider world when it comes to Britain's leadership on issues of equality and the like? Sad thing about Southgate. He's spoilt us. We're used to getting deep into tournaments now and people are pointing the finger and suggesting failure because he didn't win it. Which is really harsh because for the 30 years of my lifetime prior to him being in situ I recall either failure or absolute bloody dirge. Without wanting to go down the rabbit hole, she’s proven she is extremely competent at managing in the woman’s game. Whilst taking nothing away from her, that’s a completely different game played at a completely different standard.
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Post by bigmartin on Jul 16, 2024 15:04:04 GMT
Why don't they give it to Sarina Wiegman (sp?)? She's proven she's competent and understands the game hasn't she? And what a message for the wider world when it comes to Britain's leadership on issues of equality and the like? Sad thing about Southgate. He's spoilt us. We're used to getting deep into tournaments now and people are pointing the finger and suggesting failure because he didn't win it. Which is really harsh because for the 30 years of my lifetime prior to him being in situ I recall either failure or absolute bloody dirge. Without wanting to go down the rabbit hole, she’s proven she is extremely competent at managing in the woman’s game. Whilst taking nothing away from her, that’s a completely different game played at a completely different standard. It's the same game mate. Agree, played at a completely different standard.
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Post by philtheglass on Jul 16, 2024 17:03:01 GMT
Number of ex internationals saying that it HAS to be an English manager, but when pushed, won't commit to an actual name.....
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Post by atmosphere on Jul 16, 2024 18:33:41 GMT
The best candidate is obviously not English however I've always thought the NT manager should be English. If you fancy yourselves as a top nation with the best players who can win tournaments, you should back yourselves to appoint a manager who fits the same criteria that a playing squad member requires.
Have France, Spain, Germany, Italy, Netherlands ever had a foreign coach/manager? Can't think of any of in my time.
I always liked Graham Potter's football at Brighton. He's similar to Southgate personality wise, if he can add the same quality attacking infrastructure he did at Brighton, he could be Southgate with the handbrake off which could suit a lot of people.
Only worry would be dealing with the ego's which he was poor at when at Chelsea.
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Post by 1994hatter on Jul 16, 2024 18:34:34 GMT
How much of that 4 minutes was actually played. Get f*cked. Just to answer your question, someone has worked it out at 60 seconds. Freshly annoyed now 😂
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Post by mattyovrio on Jul 16, 2024 18:44:09 GMT
Without wanting to go down the rabbit hole, she’s proven she is extremely competent at managing in the woman’s game. Whilst taking nothing away from her, that’s a completely different game played at a completely different standard. It's the same game mate. Agree, played at a completely different standard. There has to be a manager, male or female, who has the complete respect of the players. Not sure a female manager would have that - sadly more a reflection of dysfunctional masculinity than female competence.
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Post by bigmartin on Jul 16, 2024 18:58:24 GMT
It's the same game mate. Agree, played at a completely different standard. There has to be a manager, male or female, who has the complete respect of the players. Not sure a female manager would have that - sadly more a reflection of dysfunctional masculinity than female competence. Possibly right. But I'm not sure I entirely agree. I think there's more cross-pollination these days. I'd like to think players would act 2024. rather than 1984. But I don't know what's in their hearts. It's irrelevant though as we all know it's not going to happen. Graham f*cking Potter though??? Jesus Christ. That said, the intense disappointment at losing in finals might quickly turn into a thing of the past under him so perhaps every cloud and all that...
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Post by voodooray on Jul 16, 2024 19:04:11 GMT
Enter Graham Potter and his tippy tappy sideways passing. Positive tippy tappy football though. GP did a cracking job at Brighton with unknown players. Brighton became a lot of fans second team because they loved to watch them play. Imagine what he could do with the young stars he will have at his disposal. All very positive in my opinion. I must've missed that south coast festival of sexy football. But I do remember a mid-table Prem team that didn't score many goals.
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Post by Philcounty on Jul 16, 2024 19:10:52 GMT
I hope it's Wiegman or Klopp just for a laugh.
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Post by Mozzer on Jul 16, 2024 19:11:56 GMT
Name the last English manager to win the PL.
Name the last English manager to win the top prize in Europe.
Now, a great club manager isn't necessarily a great national team manger. And vice versa. But if we want proven English managers, we're dipping our bucket in a pretty dry well.
I'll admit this is outright theft from another County group today (so thanks to Gary 😉) but Lee Carsley has managed the u21s to European success without conceding a goal and presumably knows and understands the whole ethos and setup.
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Post by atmosphere on Jul 16, 2024 19:15:59 GMT
Potter's footballing IQ is very high. It's his personality I'd wonder about but his personality is similar to Southgate's and people liked that.
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