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Post by mattyovrio on Jul 16, 2024 21:21:06 GMT
I hope it's Wiegman or Klopp just for a laugh. I'd consider both to be serious appointments. As an Anglo-German, happy for either Klopp or Tuchel to be manager. Or Wiegman, but see my previous comment on her lack of PL experience. I suppose with JC as manager, there would always be hope. We could be dead and buried and it looks like it’s all over then … then again we don’t believe in fairy tales these days as we have been let down too many times before!
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Post by ValleyHatter on Jul 16, 2024 21:22:25 GMT
Pochettino for me. Would command total respect from the players.
(1) Played at the highest level, including for the Argies (2) Loves England (3) He's available (4) Experienced manager with English teams/players and big personalities (5) Most important - he will use tactics that bring the best out of the richly talented squad
Potter and Howe are decent back ups though.
Can't see Klopp being interested, his stock is surely too high for an international job, even if it is a handsomely paid one like England.
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Post by Fallowfield Hatter on Jul 16, 2024 21:26:32 GMT
Pochettino for me. Would command total respect from the players. (1) Played at the highest level, including for the Argies (2) Loves England (3) He's available (4) Experienced manager with English teams/players and big personalities (5) Most important - he will use tactics that bring the best out of the richly talented squad Potter and Howe are decent back ups though. Can't see Klopp being interested, his stock is surely too high for an international job, even if it is a handsomely paid one like England. No to Pochettino for me, absolute bottler.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Jul 16, 2024 21:30:49 GMT
Potter's footballing IQ is very high. It's his personality I'd wonder about but his personality is similar to Southgate's and people liked that. Major correction. People liked it after Southgate had walked the walk. His appointment was NOT remotely popular. My memory of Southgate’s appointment was lots of shrugs of shoulders and “f*ck it, can’t get much worse, might as well give him a go”. It really was a properly poisoned chalice of a job, let’s hope Southgate has paved the way for some long term consistency and success for his successors.
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Post by samscfc on Jul 16, 2024 21:31:00 GMT
Pochettino for me. Would command total respect from the players. (1) Played at the highest level, including for the Argies (2) Loves England (3) He's available (4) Experienced manager with English teams/players and big personalities (5) Most important - he will use tactics that bring the best out of the richly talented squad Potter and Howe are decent back ups though. Can't see Klopp being interested, his stock is surely too high for an international job, even if it is a handsomely paid one like England. No to Pochettino for me, absolute bottler. Who would you want though? What let Southgate down is that he wasn't tactically good enough. Potter and Poch are two very good coaches who would be a tactical upgrade on Southgate (not that it would be hard) We're not going to get Klopp or Pep. Howe has said he loves the day to day management. Potter, Poch and Carsley are the only candidates I can think of.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Jul 16, 2024 21:35:19 GMT
Ha ha. Very good. Nah, Andrew. That's the importance of the use or not of the comma. "We've got to eat, Grandma." versus "We've got to eat Grandma." Capitalisation also helps. It’s the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse - and helping your uncle jack…
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Post by Fallowfield Hatter on Jul 16, 2024 21:36:36 GMT
No to Pochettino for me, absolute bottler. Who would you want though? What let Southgate down is that he wasn't tactically good enough. Potter and Poch are two very good coaches who would be a tactical upgrade on Southgate (not that it would be hard) We're not going to get Klopp or Pep. Howe has said he loves the day to day management. Potter, Poch and Carsley are the only candidates I can think of. I'm assuming it'll be Potter or Carsley, I'd prefer Potter of those two. Every time Poch has come close to winning something he's also been shown to be tactically naive. Any man who failed to win a one team league with PSG should frankly be nowhere near a big job.
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Post by atmosphere on Jul 16, 2024 21:59:08 GMT
Why? He's done a good job every club he's been at bar Chelsea where he had some lunatics in the boardroom. Whereas Southgate did nothing before getting the England job, so don't understand that logic. I think we need to elevate. Continue going up through the gears. I don't see a failed Chelsea manager, cum Brighton, Swansea and some Scandinavian backwater manager achieving that. But who knows. All about opinions. I guess, in part, I don't really understand why they'd let Southgate go to appoint Potter. I'd have preferred them to go all in on Southgate going forward. But then the loony England fans have basically sent him rushing for the white flag so that probably was/is a none starter. The fact he got the "Scandanavian backwater" team to go to Arsenal on their own patch and beat them is exactly why he's a much better manager than Southgate. Potter has a footballing brain. Something we don't value in this country.
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Post by bigmartin on Jul 16, 2024 22:12:18 GMT
I think we need to elevate. Continue going up through the gears. I don't see a failed Chelsea manager, cum Brighton, Swansea and some Scandinavian backwater manager achieving that. But who knows. All about opinions. I guess, in part, I don't really understand why they'd let Southgate go to appoint Potter. I'd have preferred them to go all in on Southgate going forward. But then the loony England fans have basically sent him rushing for the white flag so that probably was/is a none starter. The fact he got the "Scandanavian backwater" team to go to Arsenal on their own patch and beat them is exactly why he's a much better manager than Southgate. Potter has a footballing brain. Something we don't value in this country. Oh right then. Andy Kilner beat City at Maine Road. Perhaps he could make a return...
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Post by nelly on Jul 16, 2024 22:33:47 GMT
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Post by samscfc on Jul 17, 2024 5:40:58 GMT
Who would you want though? What let Southgate down is that he wasn't tactically good enough. Potter and Poch are two very good coaches who would be a tactical upgrade on Southgate (not that it would be hard) We're not going to get Klopp or Pep. Howe has said he loves the day to day management. Potter, Poch and Carsley are the only candidates I can think of. I'm assuming it'll be Potter or Carsley, I'd prefer Potter of those two. Every time Poch has come close to winning something he's also been shown to be tactically naive. Any man who failed to win a one team league with PSG should frankly be nowhere near a big job. I'm a big Poch fan. He did well at Southampton, Spurs and Chelsea but yeah I don't know he didn't manage to win the league in his first (I think) season ag PSG.
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Post by timberwolf on Jul 17, 2024 7:30:20 GMT
Potter's footballing IQ is very high. It's his personality I'd wonder about but his personality is similar to Southgate's and people liked that. Major correction. People liked it after Southgate had walked the walk. His appointment was NOT remotely popular. After the first game those who wanted southgate out were in a bigger number than his fans even if they were part time armchair fans. A few sneaky results and a close final defeat seem to have pushed his ability to another level.
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Post by timberwolf on Jul 17, 2024 7:36:33 GMT
There will be a number of serious candidates for what is possibly the best job in european football. Whoever gets it has a really good base of players to work with therefore i hope football knowledge comes well in front of an appointment that looks safe if the eyes of the FA who would never rock the boat in interviews by his take on the game itself or a match just finished.
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Post by gibbo on Jul 17, 2024 7:39:02 GMT
Name the last English manager to win the PL. There never has been ?? (talking in Premier League terms)
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Post by gibbo on Jul 17, 2024 7:56:27 GMT
Any thoughts on why we don't produce good managers? It's not that we don't produce them as such, its that the recent British Managers given the 'big' jobs haven't been a success (for a variety of reasons) and so that opportunity has once again gone for homegrown managers in higher profile jobs (Moyes, Potter, Lampard). It's safer to go with a trendy foreign appointment because you're only doing what everyone else does.
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