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Post by Fallowfield Hatter on May 21, 2020 14:11:16 GMT
If I remember rightly, someone from the Co-op said they'd seen the plans for the CE redevelopment and Stott was looking to keep it under wraps to give more of a 'wow factor' once it's unveiled. Seem to remember reading that on the other board a few months back.
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Post by Duncan McOchin on May 21, 2020 15:00:48 GMT
Anyone who lives near EP seen any activity going on there? Outside I mean. Presume there'd be vans and things
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2020 15:30:12 GMT
It’s not unique. It’s a highly contagious virus with an uncomfortably high fatality rate. It’s not the first and it won’t be the last. It is bad. People who downplayed it’s threat helped to facilitate its spread, but it really isn’t unique. You say Covid 19 is not unique Stranded Hatter and that puzzles me , when did the world last have a pandemic of Covid19? Im aware its a strain of contagious virus such as say SARS etc but Covid 19, I think 19 stands for the year it began, is unique in my opinion. Do you still disagree? |
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Post by Stranded Hatter on May 21, 2020 15:32:58 GMT
It’s unique in the same way any virus is unique. It’s not unique in the sense of being a contagious and deadly virus that we have to deal with as a species.
We’ve dealt with viruses before. We’ve dealt with flu viruses and we’ve dealt with coronaviruses and countless other types of virus. That is why I say it’s not unique.
The virus is called SARS-COV-2. The disease is Covid-19.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on May 21, 2020 15:35:26 GMT
Human beings have dealt with similar threats. We’ll deal with this one.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2020 15:48:23 GMT
Human beings have dealt with similar threats. We’ll deal with this one. You are of course very right Stranded Hatter but its suggested 500,000,000 contracted Spanish flu with an estimated 50,000,000 deaths and its repercusions financially allegedly contributed strongly to Germany being taken over by the Nazis so it could be argued we as in the human race havent yet dealt with it given many are still alive who suffered, so dealing with it so far is over 100 years in progress. Still fingers crossed with modern technology and Donald Trump  in charge of the free world we should be OK  |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2020 16:00:43 GMT
It’s unique in the same way any virus is unique. It’s not unique in the sense of being a contagious and deadly virus that we have to deal with as a species. We’ve dealt with viruses before. We’ve dealt with flu viruses and we’ve dealt with coronaviruses and countless other types of virus. That is why I say it’s not unique. The virus is called SARS-COV-2. The disease is Covid-19. Agreed so to finish this cause its boring now can we just agree that the disease that is covid19 is unique and we havent dealt with it before ?  |
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Post by Stranded Hatter on May 21, 2020 16:02:44 GMT
I’m talking about dealing with the virus directly.
Spanish Flu certainly had long lasting effects, as will Covid-19, but it didn’t lead to social distancing for generations. That’s what I’m disagreeing with, that social distancing is going to be around for generations.
The Spanish Flu virus (H1N1) itself largely went away (before resurfacing in a 2009 pandemic) after two years of causing serious devastation. And yes, social distancing was implemented during the Spanish Flu pandemic, as it often is as a response to contagious disease.
And to blame the Spanish Flu for the financial situation that led to the rise of the nazis is to ignore a myriad of more important contributing factors. Things like the weakness of the Weimar government, the Great Depression (which happened a decade later and was completely unrelated), the Treaty of Versailles. Europe had largely recovered from both the First World War and Spanish Flu by the time of the Wall Street Crash.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on May 21, 2020 16:04:02 GMT
It’s unique in the same way any virus is unique. It’s not unique in the sense of being a contagious and deadly virus that we have to deal with as a species. We’ve dealt with viruses before. We’ve dealt with flu viruses and we’ve dealt with coronaviruses and countless other types of virus. That is why I say it’s not unique. The virus is called SARS-COV-2. The disease is Covid-19. Agreed so to finish this cause its boring now can we just agree that the disease that is covid19 is unique and we havent dealt with it before ? SARS-COV-2 is a unique virus. Dealing with a virus like this is not a unique situation. You’re arguing from semantics and you’re correct that it’s boring. |
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Post by Durango95 on May 21, 2020 22:18:12 GMT
15,000 would be good eventually, think bigger and better.
York's new ground looks really shite. So too does Brentford's imho.
New out of town grounds are dreadful, redeveloping on the existing site is so much better thankfully true in our case.
Full redevelopment of the Railway End and Pop Side with proper facilities is the aim/on the plans wasn't it?
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Post by County1999 on May 21, 2020 23:07:30 GMT
Social distancing won’t be here for generations. It’s in place to combat the spread of this virus, so it’s here until the virus is gone, not forever. Social distancing isn’t a new thing. It’s been used in other viral outbreaks in the last hundred or so years. It’s not going to be a permanent fixture. Not only that but there would be no difference between a safe standing rail area and conventional seating in terms of distance between supporters. So if safe standing isn’t suitable then neither is conventional seating. I'd argue we don't know that. We've already seen Coronavirus mutating, so it'll probably continue to do so. Is there a point that we accept that, like other viruses, we're probably going to lose 10,000 - 20,000 people per year to it on this country, and just get on with things? The problem with that is with Social distancing in place we've already lost 36,000 people in just over 2 months. That's if you believe the figure too. 10-20 thousand a year looks a long way away at this point 😔 |
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Post by vicar on May 22, 2020 5:56:27 GMT
More than 50,000 excess deaths for the period, we'll be social distancing for a while yet.
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Post by heatonhatter on May 22, 2020 6:45:40 GMT
More than 50,000 excess deaths for the period, we'll be social distancing for a while yet. A significant percentage of the excess deaths will be due to lockdown, not Coronavirus. An even greater percentage will be because we created hospital capacity that we didn't need and sent infected people back into care homes. |
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Post by timberwolf on May 22, 2020 7:33:39 GMT
for me this virus will be around for years to come. over the years new diseases have surfaced and if i remember correctly HIV and AIDS were going to be the end of mankind. old enough to remember the sanitoriums for TB being open. now you hardly ever hear of that disease. kids always got sruff like measels every year. with vaccinations and tratment all disease can be controlled until a new one eventually arrives. if anyone or any government is actually waiting for national deaths involving corona to go down to single figures then i think we will be all in a long wait for football and everything else to get back to normality.
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Post by hatter91 on May 22, 2020 8:03:17 GMT
It would be good to see a set up (on a bigger scale) to what Barnet have done with their stands both in their main stand and the away end. A clean bar with a choice of drink options, TV screens everywhere and you can pay by card! They were great on the visits we've had there.
I'm excited to see what is done with the CE.
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