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Post by stonerose on Jan 13, 2021 11:08:28 GMT
I think any development of the Pop Side would see that become the new Main Stand with a fancy Directors box, entertaining area and possibly new changing rooms being placed over that side.
I have faith that we have access to the best people to get the most out of the space that we have. Thinking back to when the pop side was terraced and we had the 5 a side pitch at the back there's probably more space than you'd imagine if we took it right out to the boundary.
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Post by timberwolf on Jan 13, 2021 11:14:01 GMT
Corporate space full length of the pitch. This again would generate cash. Proper boxes for the prawn sandwich brigade. The directors box has its charm but I think we could do better. I'm not saying forget about the fans but maximise corporate in new stands. yes that needs doing especially if and when we get our league status back. something a lot of us forget about because we will not be involved or want to be in the corporate side of football. there are a number out there that would bring cash into the club and should not be put off by outdated or poor facilities.
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Post by tgttiw on Jan 13, 2021 11:27:46 GMT
I think any development of the Pop Side would see that become the new Main Stand with a fancy Directors box, entertaining area and possibly new changing rooms being placed over that side. I have faith that we have access to the best people to get the most out of the space that we have. Thinking back to when the pop side was terraced and we had the 5 a side pitch at the back there's probably more space than you'd imagine if we took it right out to the boundary. If we were to do that the space in the main stand could be turned into a really excellent pre match pub. Better than an open space thing. Imagine having your pre match inside the old dressing room. Awesome!
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Post by advent on Jan 13, 2021 13:08:23 GMT
So if we were to build an all singing all dancing expensive new stand on the pop side then it would only be worth it if people are going to sit in it. At the moment if we minus the free ticket intiative we have a couple of hundred at best sat in there, it would need people to move fron the cheadle end and make that their new regular spot or it would look a bit ridiculous it sat empty on home games. Who would be willing to leave the cheadle end an adopt a new side on view?
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Post by stockytwo on Jan 13, 2021 13:16:01 GMT
So if we were to build an all singing all dancing expensive new stand on the pop side then it would only be worth it if people are going to sit in it. At the moment if we minus the free ticket intiative we have a couple of hundred at best sat in there, it would need people to move fron the cheadle end and make that their new regular spot or it would look a bit ridiculous it sat empty on home games. Who would be willing to leave the cheadle end an adopt a new side on view? I think quite a few would be willing to change. One of the reasons why the Cheadle end is the most popular stand is that it actually has facilities and unobstructed views. I'm sure there's plenty who would prefer a side view but without posts in the way or having to forgo a sheltered spot to go at half time and have a drink. I don't think it would be a full on exodus from the Cheadle end to a new pop side but i'm sure there would be plenty of people who would want to move to a shiny new stand with a better view. Personally I wouldn't move as i'm an end stand kind of guy. It's where I feel more comfortable.
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Post by advent on Jan 13, 2021 13:22:26 GMT
So if we were to build an all singing all dancing expensive new stand on the pop side then it would only be worth it if people are going to sit in it. At the moment if we minus the free ticket intiative we have a couple of hundred at best sat in there, it would need people to move fron the cheadle end and make that their new regular spot or it would look a bit ridiculous it sat empty on home games. Who would be willing to leave the cheadle end an adopt a new side on view? I think quite a few would be willing to change. One of the reasons why the Cheadle end is the most popular stand is that it actually has facilities and unobstructed views. I'm sure there's plenty who would prefer a side view but without posts in the way or having to forgo a sheltered spot to go at half time and have a drink. I don't think it would be a full on exodus from the Cheadle end to a new pop side but i'm sure there would be plenty of people who would want to move to a shiny new stand with a better view. Personally I wouldn't move as i'm an end stand kind of guy. It's where I feel more comfortable. I was just putting it out there, i sit in the main stand anyway so wouldnt effect me so much going from behind the goal to the side, but i might be tempted to give the new side a go.
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Post by gibbo on Jan 13, 2021 13:25:46 GMT
So if we were to build an all singing all dancing expensive new stand on the pop side then it would only be worth it if people are going to sit in it. At the moment if we minus the free ticket intiative we have a couple of hundred at best sat in there, it would need people to move fron the cheadle end and make that their new regular spot or it would look a bit ridiculous it sat empty on home games. Who would be willing to leave the cheadle end an adopt a new side on view? And not just enough moving seats till fill a new Pop Side, but getting enough supporters through the door in general. We rarely got near a full house in the heady days of the Championship, so not sure what our actual potential is in terms of a regular attendance? Would we ever get 10 to 15,000 on a regular basis (outside of the Premier League)?
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Post by stonerose on Jan 13, 2021 13:37:42 GMT
So if we were to build an all singing all dancing expensive new stand on the pop side then it would only be worth it if people are going to sit in it. At the moment if we minus the free ticket intiative we have a couple of hundred at best sat in there, it would need people to move fron the cheadle end and make that their new regular spot or it would look a bit ridiculous it sat empty on home games. Who would be willing to leave the cheadle end an adopt a new side on view? I'd be happy to move across from the Main Stand if better facilities and the chance of a half time pint that didn't taste like dishwater was on offer. It'll always be a side on view for me since moving away from the Cheadle End many years ago.
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Post by advent on Jan 13, 2021 13:39:51 GMT
So if we were to build an all singing all dancing expensive new stand on the pop side then it would only be worth it if people are going to sit in it. At the moment if we minus the free ticket intiative we have a couple of hundred at best sat in there, it would need people to move fron the cheadle end and make that their new regular spot or it would look a bit ridiculous it sat empty on home games. Who would be willing to leave the cheadle end an adopt a new side on view? I'd be happy to move across from the Main Stand if better facilities and the chance of a half time pint that didn't taste like dishwater was on offer. It'll always be a side on view for me since moving away from the Cheadle End many years ago. I did the same, sat in the cheadle end for nearly 25 years, sit on the side now and enjoy the game much better
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Post by Fallowfield Hatter on Jan 13, 2021 13:42:18 GMT
So if we were to build an all singing all dancing expensive new stand on the pop side then it would only be worth it if people are going to sit in it. At the moment if we minus the free ticket intiative we have a couple of hundred at best sat in there, it would need people to move fron the cheadle end and make that their new regular spot or it would look a bit ridiculous it sat empty on home games. Who would be willing to leave the cheadle end an adopt a new side on view? And not just enough moving seats till fill a new Pop Side, but getting enough supporters through the door in general. We rarely got near a full house in the heady days of the Championship, so not sure what our actual potential is in terms of a regular attendance? Would we ever get 10 to 15,000 on a regular basis (outside of the Premier League)? I reckon we'll easily get that. Look at Lincoln since they returned to the league. If the government were to announce that we can have fans in from this week, there'd be about 7,000 there for Notts on Saturday.
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Post by tgttiw on Jan 13, 2021 13:46:06 GMT
So if we were to build an all singing all dancing expensive new stand on the pop side then it would only be worth it if people are going to sit in it. At the moment if we minus the free ticket intiative we have a couple of hundred at best sat in there, it would need people to move fron the cheadle end and make that their new regular spot or it would look a bit ridiculous it sat empty on home games. Who would be willing to leave the cheadle end an adopt a new side on view? And not just enough moving seats till fill a new Pop Side, but getting enough supporters through the door in general. We rarely got near a full house in the heady days of the Championship, so not sure what our actual potential is in terms of a regular attendance? Would we ever get 10 to 15,000 on a regular basis (outside of the Premier League)? Donny and rotherham are similar towns to stockport. Both clubs had investment and now get more than they used to. Lots more examples of that, Swansea. We do things right we could easily be another rotherham
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Post by edinburghhatter on Jan 13, 2021 13:59:43 GMT
I think any development of the Pop Side would see that become the new Main Stand with a fancy Directors box, entertaining area and possibly new changing rooms being placed over that side. All really nice ideas... but only really feasible if the question of vastly improved access to a new, expanded Pop side is properly sorted.
Meaning:
- unfettered access via both ends of the Pop side
- acquiring the land behind the Railway end, to allow access to both that and the Pop side.
As far as the changing rooms are concerned, it's surely better to leave them where they are, or possibly build new ones on the site currently occupied by the Bungalow? For one major reason: vehicle access. Players generally arrive by coach, and Hardcastle Road is the only area where this is really feasible. The area behind the Cheadle end is a smallish dead end, crowded with fans, and that behind the Railway end, even if improved, would be similar... with housing now being built close by which will further close things in. And the residential streets which are (some distance) behind the Pop side are not going to be suitable for vehicle access either.
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Post by Duncan McOchin on Jan 13, 2021 14:46:29 GMT
Think the talk about drainage is a bit mis-placed. Hasn't it always drained rather well? The only postponement due to waterlogging I can remember is that Fylde game a few years back due to a huge rainstorm that flooded parts of the town. Re-doing the drainage would be a huge outlay in order to fix a problem we don't really have? If there is an issue, it's that the turf did cut up a bit as the game went on. If any work ever does get done, I'd hope it's the installation of one of those Desso Grassmaster systems that Premiership clubs use, which holds the turf together much more strongly.
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Post by stonerose on Jan 13, 2021 14:58:01 GMT
Didn't we do the drainage after the gigs at EP the summer before last? I seem to remember them digging out channels for drainage in recent years.
I think the problem the other night was the volume of water that came down and got progressively worse throughout the night, most pitches would've have had issues dealing with so much standing water regardless of shelling a fortune out on drains.
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Post by Ngard on Jan 13, 2021 17:56:02 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised to see a big attendance bounce once the COVID restrictions are removed, likely next season rather this one (though I think we may be in tier 2 for the very tail end of the season).
Think all football clubs will have an attendance bounce, I'd expect perhaps 7000/8000+, hopefully in League 2! If we can keep the momentum up and have a good season, I don't think those numbers will disappear. Lots of people will be desperate to return to normal and in addition I feel a lot of people will realise that they took live events for granted and want to make amends for that.
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