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Post by Henry Pratt on May 22, 2020 14:40:17 GMT
Summat like this is what I'd like, thankyouplease. Existing seats making up the lower tier, boxes if you must, new seats as a second tier, new roof.   |
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Post by Henry Pratt on May 22, 2020 14:43:57 GMT
Its 2020 not 1883 and seeing is most things are changing at County and everyone is loving it so why not as Henry Pratt says he prefers and turn the pitch 90 degrees? We could then demolish the main stand completely and just have a basic single tiered terrace as we have in the Pop side now but also keep whats left of the Pop Side, theres nothing there of consequence and it could act as emergency overflow for away fans if needed. We could then put an extra tier on the Cheadle End with exec boxes and better food and bar facilities for all . Just leave the away fans in the Railway as it is. We cant live in the past anymore radical changes are needed given after the pandemic slowly finishes.County have to evolve to stay strong and exist . Forget the old bring in the new our history should start again now. I'm pretty sure you couldn't put a new tier on the CE. In any case, if you did turn the ground 90 degrees, the CE would become largely unusable, so would have to be demolished and rebuilt. Which would be ace. Because it's shite. Did I mention the Cheadle End's shite? |
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Post by Duncan McOchin on May 22, 2020 14:48:39 GMT
Like everyone else, I'd love to see some grand plans for EP but come on, such things aren't realistic just yet
What's the point in saying "I want a stand like this" when the current offerings have glaring problems. Get that sorted first, make EP a better place to visit, that's the whole point of this refurbishment
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2020 14:50:22 GMT
I like your suggestion Henry for too many years we have been performing at low level with just the odd glimmer of success we now have new owners with big expectations and wallets so the stadium has to reflect the new club image and bring in new young supporters who expect 2020 facilities not 1960 facilities.
I never liked the idea of a flat pack new stadium near the M60 or the change to Manstock but we should keep EP for old times sake where it is and just get rid of the very old, like the main stand and bring in the new we must stop wallowing in nostalgia if we are to be successful. just as City,Spurs,Arsenal and soon Everton have done.
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Post by Fallowfield Hatter on May 22, 2020 15:00:33 GMT
I like your suggestion Henry for too many years we have been performing at low level with just the odd glimmer of success we now have new owners with big expectations and wallets so the stadium has to reflect the new club image and bring in new young supporters who expect 2020 facilities not 1960 facilities. I never liked the idea of a flat pack new stadium near the M60 or the change to Manstock but we should keep EP for old times sake where it is and just get rid of the very old, like the main stand and bring in the new we must stop wallowing in nostalgia if we are to be successful. just as City,Spurs,Arsenal and soon Everton have done. We should always keep the facade of the Main Stand. Fewer and fewer clubs have anything like it these days. I'd even settle for doing what Plymouth have done, where the facade of the old traditional stand is now the club shop. |
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Post by edinburghhatter on May 22, 2020 15:06:22 GMT
The pop side would look great with corporate boxes behind the existing seats and a new roof, be good to switch the changing rooms and dug out to that side too. I think we’d be better off with a whole new stand rather than just expanding the Popside backwards. The seats are bolted to the old terrace so it’s quite shallow compared to what we could get with a new stand. Yes, it makes sense to replace it all, so the space beneath the terrace could be used.
But what's there is NOT just "the old terracing": it was completely rebuilt, and re-profiled, when seats were added in 1993... of the former terrace, only the roof (built 1956) was left, which with hindsight was not ideal, but I'm sure cost was a big factor.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2020 15:06:54 GMT
I like your suggestion Henry for too many years we have been performing at low level with just the odd glimmer of success we now have new owners with big expectations and wallets so the stadium has to reflect the new club image and bring in new young supporters who expect 2020 facilities not 1960 facilities. I never liked the idea of a flat pack new stadium near the M60 or the change to Manstock but we should keep EP for old times sake where it is and just get rid of the very old, like the main stand and bring in the new we must stop wallowing in nostalgia if we are to be successful. just as City,Spurs,Arsenal and soon Everton have done. We should always keep the facade of the Main Stand. Fewer and fewer clubs have anything like it these days. I'd even settle for doing what Plymouth have done, where the facade of the old traditional stand is now the club shop. Fallowfield I dont see why we need to keep the old facade, its had its day what use is it? If you mean the Stockport County sinage then OK if people still want it then shift it round to outside the back of the Cheadle End |
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Post by vicar on May 22, 2020 15:21:57 GMT
The Moan Stand facade has to stay.
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Post by philtheglass on May 22, 2020 15:28:06 GMT
We should always keep the facade of the Main Stand. Fewer and fewer clubs have anything like it these days. I'd even settle for doing what Plymouth have done, where the facade of the old traditional stand is now the club shop. Fallowfield I dont see why we need to keep the old facade, its had its day what use is it? If you mean the Stockport County sinage then OK if people still want it then shift it round to outside the back of the Cheadle End I'm with you, if we want to see the club progress, then we need a home that makes a statement - its the start of a new era, whats happened in the past is gone (but never forgotten), but we really need to move on rather than clinging to past memories |
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Post by CB1883 on May 22, 2020 15:30:52 GMT
I’d be disappointed if we lost the front of the main stand. I know it’s only bricks, paint and lettering but it’s more characteristic than grounds that are just overloaded with cladding.
Imagine walking up to EP and seeing all sides like the back of the Cheadle End for example. It’s one of the small things that add up to something special.
There’s no reason why we can’t keep that as well as make a statement in other areas of the ground.
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Post by someoneelse on May 22, 2020 15:34:52 GMT
Heritage shouldn't be tossed away like it means nothing to people.
If anything is to be replaced it should always be by something that is universally approved of. I can't imagine what would be better than a redeveloped EP which has everything for everyone, new and old.
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Post by desmond on May 22, 2020 15:40:11 GMT
Its 2020 not 1883 and seeing is most things are changing at County and everyone is loving it so why not as Henry Pratt says he prefers and turn the pitch 90 degrees? We could then demolish the main stand completely and just have a basic single tiered terrace as we have in the Pop side now but also keep whats left of the Pop Side, theres nothing there of consequence and it could act as emergency overflow for away fans if needed. We could then put an extra tier on the Cheadle End with exec boxes and better food and bar facilities for all . Just leave the away fans in the Railway as it is. We cant live in the past anymore radical changes are needed given after the pandemic slowly finishes.County have to evolve to stay strong and exist . Forget the old bring in the new our history should start again now. How would you add another tier to the Cheadle end ? |
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Post by Stranded Hatter on May 22, 2020 15:40:49 GMT
I think we’d be better off with a whole new stand rather than just expanding the Popside backwards. The seats are bolted to the old terrace so it’s quite shallow compared to what we could get with a new stand. See my other reply, but I do know that the old terrace was completely excavated and new concrete laid before the seats were added. The old terrace was tarmac topped, I think. The one new is all concrete. And the rake was definitely also improved, because the old terrace rake was too shallow I stand corrected. It feels quite shallow when sat there, especially when compared to stands at Barnet and Dagenham I’ve sat on this season, but I’ll bow to your greater knowledge on that front. And two tiers would be ideal, or at least have that as something easily achievable if not immediately necessary (so built in a way that expansion to a second tier would require minimal effort). With squ al heights I meant with regards to the roofs of both a new railway end and Popside, so that they could easily be wrapped around to fill in the corner in the future. Might end up not exactly matching the Cheadle End height, with different building techniques and exec boxes, even at two tiers, but close enough to where both corners could be filled easily. |
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Post by Stranded Hatter on May 22, 2020 15:48:17 GMT
The Main Stand facade is non negotiable for me, it's iconic and screams Edgeley Park. Look at what Rangers did with their facade at Ibrox for an example of modernising the interior while keeping the historic look.  Also look at Craven Cottage for how to modernise a ground without destroying its character. Keeping the Main Stan front is integral for keeping Edgeley Park as Edgeley Park while dragging it into the 21st Century. |
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Post by Fallowfield Hatter on May 22, 2020 15:53:12 GMT
We should always keep the facade of the Main Stand. Fewer and fewer clubs have anything like it these days. I'd even settle for doing what Plymouth have done, where the facade of the old traditional stand is now the club shop. Fallowfield I dont see why we need to keep the old facade, its had its day what use is it? If you mean the Stockport County sinage then OK if people still want it then shift it round to outside the back of the Cheadle End Because it's iconic. It's our heritage. It's County. |
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