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Post by Durango95 on Jun 20, 2021 22:11:03 GMT
That's on the other side of the new and improved alley/passage way. Doesn't affect EP at all. I've said it a million times and as you can see here, there's loads of space at the back of the Pop Side and RE once we get the land off whoever is being picky with it. We're not a poor part time club anymore. Now is the time to get the ground further developed properly in line with the Championship in 7 years plan and whilst we have professional people in charge, not to mention with proper plans, ideas and money!  How do you get people in and out? The same way we do now. Hardcastle Road, via Mercian Way. Never been a problem previously. The footpath at the rear of the RE is also a proper access route now too. More of the same is needed. Just have to look at the bigger picture. One sticking point is the narrow entrance in the CE corner. But that is easily solvable when you have money. The space is enough to open up the Pop Side and RE so you can go all the way around the ground, something we've not been able to do for a long, long time. So you'd have much more pedestrian access for a start, there'd be plenty of space for more turnstiles/exits at both new ends too. |
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Post by Fez on Jun 20, 2021 22:11:25 GMT
Hollywood Park! A short walk in to town, a short walk from the stations and a short walk from Edgeley and right on the edge of the motorway. Looks perfect to me. Just a shame it’s nowhere near big enough/accessible. Also, it's a public park, isn't it? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2021 22:22:22 GMT
How do you get people in and out? The same way we do now. Hardcastle Road, via Mercian Way. Never been a problem previously. The footpath at the rear of the RE is also a proper access route now too. More of the same is needed. Just have to look at the bigger picture. One sticking point is the narrow entrance in the CE corner. But that is easily solvable when you have money. The space is enough to open up the Pop Side and RE so you can go all the way around the ground, something we've not been able to do for a long, long time. So you'd have much more pedestrian access for a start, there'd be plenty of space for more turnstiles/exits at both new ends too. Looks like the CE/Pop Side corner would be far too close to the water to me but I’ll take your word for it. I don’t know if from a safety perspective if you could just have turnstiles at the ends and not something with a street at the back. But I know nothing, just talking out loud. |
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Post by Durango95 on Jun 20, 2021 22:57:21 GMT
That’s the only main issue but reservoirs are man made and we’d have the infrastructure to do a proper job. It’s all about having the right people and money involved. We have that now.
Look at Brentford they managed to shoehorn a decent enough new ground in less space. It could be really exciting times ahead.
We’ve been starved of that ground wise since Brendan got fed up and until Stott came in, so it’ll be very welcome when it finally starts happening.
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Post by advent on Jun 21, 2021 8:11:24 GMT
That’s the only main issue but reservoirs are man made and we’d have the infrastructure to do a proper job. It’s all about having the right people and money involved. We have that now. Look at Brentford they managed to shoehorn a decent enough new ground in less space. It could be really exciting times ahead. We’ve been starved of that ground wise since Brendan got fed up and until Stott came in, so it’ll be very welcome when it finally starts happening. Which may be never? I dont think there has been any public mention of new stands has there or plans drawn up? And nothing has leaked out which isnt like county, lets hope there is something in it though. |
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Post by timberwolf on Jun 21, 2021 8:56:48 GMT
With limited space I’d love to see a small two tiered stand at the railway end like they have at Brentford, Southend and Bradford. Then a bigger two tier side with hospitality boxes at the pop side. Would prefer different size stands/ looks for a bit of character rather than something like Bloomfield Road where everything looks the same at one level. yes. they seem to have utilised every square inch available at brentford at least. like their new ground or not it does have more character than some of the boring new builds that are well named flat packs. |
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Post by Nik on Jun 21, 2021 9:05:18 GMT
With limited space I’d love to see a small two tiered stand at the railway end like they have at Brentford, Southend and Bradford. Then a bigger two tier side with hospitality boxes at the pop side. Would prefer different size stands/ looks for a bit of character rather than something like Bloomfield Road where everything looks the same at one level. yes. they seem to have utilised every square inch available at brentford at least. like their new ground or not it does have more character than some of the boring new builds that are well named flat packs. I think he means the steep, two-tiered away end at Griffin Park, rather than the new ground. |
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Post by timberwolf on Jun 21, 2021 10:34:15 GMT
yes. they seem to have utilised every square inch available at brentford at least. like their new ground or not it does have more character than some of the boring new builds that are well named flat packs. I think he means the steep, two-tiered away end at Griffin Park, rather than the new ground. just wonder if there is a reason stands like that never get built nowadays. they,d be ideal for smaller grounds with a lack of space. |
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Jun 21, 2021 10:36:27 GMT
I think he means the steep, two-tiered away end at Griffin Park, rather than the new ground. just wonder if there is a reason stands like that never get built nowadays. they,d be ideal for smaller grounds with a lack of space. Generally speaking the views are usually crap. Can’t even see the near end goal from the top deck sometimes. |
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Post by suedehead on Jun 21, 2021 10:42:00 GMT
just wonder if there is a reason stands like that never get built nowadays. they,d be ideal for smaller grounds with a lack of space. Generally speaking the views are usually crap. Can’t even see the near end goal from the top deck sometimes. I know it isn't two tiered but the steep away end at Barnet is great, you're right on top of the pitch. |
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Jun 21, 2021 11:21:07 GMT
Generally speaking the views are usually crap. Can’t even see the near end goal from the top deck sometimes. I know it isn't two tiered but the steep away end at Barnet is great, you're right on top of the pitch. Oh yeah that’s cracking, probably one of the best seated away stands I’ve been in, the one at Dagenham and Redbridge is pretty good too. My memory of the one at Griffin Park is there are seats in that upper tier where you can’t see the goal line at all, though I accept I could be misremembering. |
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Post by Henry Pratt on Jun 21, 2021 11:46:02 GMT
That’s the only main issue but reservoirs are man made and we’d have the infrastructure to do a proper job. It’s all about having the right people and money involved. We have that now. Look at Brentford they managed to shoehorn a decent enough new ground in less space. It could be really exciting times ahead. We’ve been starved of that ground wise since Brendan got fed up and until Stott came in, so it’ll be very welcome when it finally starts happening. Thinking aloud, but can you imagine a big Pop side stand, making the ground look very impressive from the railway, and the parking behind it landscaped, with an area that overlooks the reservoir? The ground could look absolutely gorgeous from that side, and if we put new dressing rooms and offices in there, it could be a brand new "main" stand. And as your photo shows, there's room to have a smaller stand at the RE, with access behind it to the new area behind the Jim Gannon Stand. I'd take a slice off the reservoir if possible, but I suspect it could be made to work even without. As and you implied, the resulting stand and surrounding area would look miles better than the overgrown mess that's there now. Do we know definitively who owns the land behind the Pop? It's just that Elwood said we/he did when I talked to him years ago. Might have been bullshitting, of course, but it'd be nice to know. |
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Jun 21, 2021 12:28:38 GMT
That’s the only main issue but reservoirs are man made and we’d have the infrastructure to do a proper job. It’s all about having the right people and money involved. We have that now. Look at Brentford they managed to shoehorn a decent enough new ground in less space. It could be really exciting times ahead. We’ve been starved of that ground wise since Brendan got fed up and until Stott came in, so it’ll be very welcome when it finally starts happening. Thinking aloud, but can you imagine a big Pop side stand, making the ground look very impressive from the railway, and the parking behind it landscaped, with an area that overlooks the reservoir? The ground could look absolutely gorgeous from that side, and if we put new dressing rooms and offices in there, it could be a brand new "main" stand. And as your photo shows, there's room to have a smaller stand at the RE, with access behind it to the new area behind the Jim Gannon Stand. I'd take a slice off the reservoir if possible, but I suspect it could be made to work even without. As and you implied, the resulting stand and surrounding area would look miles better than the overgrown mess that's there now. Do we know definitively who owns the land behind the Pop? It's just that Elwood said we/he did when I talked to him years ago. Might have been bullshitting, of course, but it'd be nice to know. There’s no practical reason why we can’t build over part of the reservoir without impacting its water capacity. Christ if they can build over the Mersey we can build over a small part of a reservoir. It could be magnificent if done right, similar size height to the Cheadle End but steeper seating banks allowing brilliant views of both the pitch and the town. Or if they didn’t want capacity to be an issue build a single tier stand designed in a way that could have a second tier added in the future. There’s plenty of good stuff that could be done in that footprint, with a little imagination and enough money. Edit - additionally theoretically if done right Moscow Road, to the south of the ground, becomes an exit route for the ground as well, not for vehicles but for pedestrians. |
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Post by Durango95 on Jun 21, 2021 12:36:53 GMT
That’s the only main issue but reservoirs are man made and we’d have the infrastructure to do a proper job. It’s all about having the right people and money involved. We have that now. Look at Brentford they managed to shoehorn a decent enough new ground in less space. It could be really exciting times ahead. We’ve been starved of that ground wise since Brendan got fed up and until Stott came in, so it’ll be very welcome when it finally starts happening. Which may be never? I dont think there has been any public mention of new stands has there or plans drawn up? And nothing has leaked out which isnt like county, lets hope there is something in it though. They definitely mentioned new stands when they first arrived. It’s 100% needed. The Pop Side is past it and not nearly good enough for L1/Championship whatsoever. |
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Post by 3330 on Jun 21, 2021 15:28:18 GMT
Is it new seats in the CE or just removal for painting ...any pics anyone?
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