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Post by suedehead on Jul 24, 2024 8:38:18 GMT
And for me it’s a pleasant walk out in the sun to Poynton so if you have any questions or polite comments please feel free to reply but don’t expect an immediate Nik type response [ i.e within 60 seconds ]. I nudged you towards the T&Cs yesterday, which you failed to acknowledge, I'm now making it quite clear to you. Stop with the little digs at other members or you'll soon find yourself gone from here. Before you paint yourself as a martyr, it's nothing to do with your political views. It's because you're behaving like a child. You may think you're 'winning' on here, or spin it as being a wind up to the 'lefties' but your previous 117 posts reflect a lot less well on you than they do on anyone else.
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Post by redhatter on Jul 24, 2024 8:38:49 GMT
We need to process asylum claims quickly. Allow genuine asylum seekers to stay and allow them to work. Deport economic migrants. It's a simple as that. The failure to act (as the Tories have done), leaving people in hotels for years is absolutely astronomical. That is totally true but its harder than some think in sorting which are which. Something you can blame the tories big time for by not doing this when the first boat arrived and not get into a situation thats getting harder to resolve by the day. the immigration haters keep telling us there is no war in a certain country but cannot understand there is more than war torn countries people want to escape from for what they feel is a better and safer life. Certainly would not like our PM job solving this problem or even getting a big grip on processing the thousands of these people and possible dependants coming in the future. Labour will be tagged about getting soft on immigration again but are only picking up the piece someone else caused. That's why I think it is important to have legal routes for genuine asylum seekers. If we were to set up an applications centre in Calais and process the claims in France, we would be able to separate genuine asylum seekers from economic migrants, before they arrive in the UK. Genuine asylum seekers would then have a safe and legal route to travel here. Furthermore, we could take a different approach to migrants who choose to illegally cross the channel on a small boat. They will still be entitled to claim asylum on arrival in the UK, but if we have a safe and legal route to enter the country and they choose to deliberately ignore that option and pay a criminal gang of people smugglers, then I think we can make a fair assumption they are more likely to be economic migrants.
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Jul 24, 2024 8:50:05 GMT
Because we control our own currency supply, and our debt is in our currency. Our currency can become worthless though and our debts could become unmanageable. If our currency became worthless so too would the debt, as it’s held in GBP. Public sector debt isn’t the big scary thing that it’s made out to be and the way politicians have likened to household debt for decades is at best negligent and at worse outright manipulative. It being as high as it currently is isn’t ideal but it’s not unprecedented, and the country and predecessor states have been in some kind of public debt since the 13th century. It’s normal. Public sector debt is generally good for the private sector. It’s even less of an issue now that we use fiat currency rather than being tied to a commodity like gold.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Jul 24, 2024 9:21:38 GMT
Our currency can become worthless though and our debts could become unmanageable. If our currency became worthless so too would the debt, as it’s held in GBP. Public sector debt isn’t the big scary thing that it’s made out to be and the way politicians have likened to household debt for decades is at best negligent and at worse outright manipulative. It being as high as it currently is isn’t ideal but it’s not unprecedented, and the country and predecessor states have been in some kind of public debt since the 13th century. It’s normal. Public sector debt is generally good for the private sector. It’s even less of an issue now that we use fiat currency rather than being tied to a commodity like gold. Was going to post something about FIAT currency being inappropriate now we’ve Taken Back Control, but I’m struggling to find a domestic car manufacturer that’s wholly UK-owned and isn’t heavily dependent on foreign-owned and/or foreign-based suppliers. I did wonder about Jim Ratcliffe’s little vanity project, but INEOS Grenadiers all have BMW engines. Anyway, as you were…
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Post by bigmartin on Jul 24, 2024 9:39:19 GMT
View AttachmentI was sent this link by another Yellowboard member last night. I think it’s well worth sharing. It’s quite an interesting short video with Steven Barrett speaking particularly well. Not sure where they found the other clown. And for me it’s a pleasant walk out in the sun to Poynton so if you have any questions or polite comments please feel free to reply but don’t expect an immediate Nik type response [ i.e within 60 seconds ]. Hopefully news of the Touray replacement signing, and a taxi being ordered for sicknote whilst I’m out. Enjoy I think Pennis or whatever he's called needs to learn what "ethics" actually means. And they probably also could do with learning and/or understanding/appreciating what the role and the mandate of the Head of the Crown Prosecution Service is. It's a complete misfire. They've no idea what they're talking about. They're simply howling at the moon. Who's "sicknote" out of interest?
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Post by bigmartin on Jul 24, 2024 9:49:57 GMT
Because we control our own currency supply, and our debt is in our currency. Our currency can become worthless though and our debts could become unmanageable. I accept that it might be a little bit trite to say but we went through World War Two which I guess, to date, is still the most expensive thing (and not just financially) that the UK has ever endured. Believe it cost around £25bn at the time, as well as our Empire, significant swathes of our industrial capability, not to mention the sad reality of around 400,000 of our most capable, young and fit population. We didn't go bankrupt. In fact, not only did we not go bankrupt, we created the NHS and all manner of other societal structures shortly thereafter and also contributed to the rebuild and defence of Western Europe, especially Germany.
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Post by Count de Stockport on Jul 24, 2024 10:16:48 GMT
Our currency can become worthless though and our debts could become unmanageable. I accept that it might be a little bit trite to say but we went through World War Two which I guess, to date, is still the most expensive thing (and not just financially) that the UK has ever endured. Believe it cost around £25bn at the time, as well as our Empire, significant swathes of our industrial capability, not to mention the sad reality of around 400,000 of our most capable, young and fit population. We didn't go bankrupt. In fact, not only did we not go bankrupt, we created the NHS and all manner of other societal structures shortly thereafter and also contributed to the rebuild and defence of Western Europe, especially Germany. How did we fund it? Didn't the yanks give us $f*cktons in loans? What else did we do to raise the funds? Not a gotcha btw - just wanting to know more
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Post by Count de Stockport on Jul 24, 2024 10:17:17 GMT
View AttachmentI was sent this link by another Yellowboard member last night. I think it’s well worth sharing. It’s quite an interesting short video with Steven Barrett speaking particularly well. Not sure where they found the other clown. And for me it’s a pleasant walk out in the sun to Poynton so if you have any questions or polite comments please feel free to reply but don’t expect an immediate Nik type response [ i.e within 60 seconds ]. Hopefully news of the Touray replacement signing, and a taxi being ordered for sicknote whilst I’m out. Enjoy Who's "sicknote" out of interest? Powell, I'd imagine
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Post by Stranded Hatter on Jul 24, 2024 10:45:08 GMT
Our currency can become worthless though and our debts could become unmanageable. I accept that it might be a little bit trite to say but we went through World War Two which I guess, to date, is still the most expensive thing (and not just financially) that the UK has ever endured. Believe it cost around £25bn at the time, as well as our Empire, significant swathes of our industrial capability, not to mention the sad reality of around 400,000 of our most capable, young and fit population. We didn't go bankrupt. In fact, not only did we not go bankrupt, we created the NHS and all manner of other societal structures shortly thereafter and also contributed to the rebuild and defence of Western Europe, especially Germany. The economy did well post WW2 because the state spent money. It invested in people and infrastructure at a time when “there was no money left”. That’s the only way to kick start economies not cutting everything to the bone. See also FDR’s New Deal and the Great Depression.
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Post by bigmartin on Jul 24, 2024 11:41:45 GMT
I accept that it might be a little bit trite to say but we went through World War Two which I guess, to date, is still the most expensive thing (and not just financially) that the UK has ever endured. Believe it cost around £25bn at the time, as well as our Empire, significant swathes of our industrial capability, not to mention the sad reality of around 400,000 of our most capable, young and fit population. We didn't go bankrupt. In fact, not only did we not go bankrupt, we created the NHS and all manner of other societal structures shortly thereafter and also contributed to the rebuild and defence of Western Europe, especially Germany. How did we fund it? Didn't the yanks give us $f*cktons in loans? What else did we do to raise the funds? Not a gotcha btw - just wanting to know more Insanely high taxation at a time when people were more comfortable paying towards the health of the nation. Both during the war and also long after the war's end ("if 5% appears too small, be thankful I don't take it all...Taxman"), huge amounts of Lend Lease from the USA (and also other countries). And selling off our national assets.
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Post by bigmartin on Jul 24, 2024 11:44:00 GMT
I accept that it might be a little bit trite to say but we went through World War Two which I guess, to date, is still the most expensive thing (and not just financially) that the UK has ever endured. Believe it cost around £25bn at the time, as well as our Empire, significant swathes of our industrial capability, not to mention the sad reality of around 400,000 of our most capable, young and fit population. We didn't go bankrupt. In fact, not only did we not go bankrupt, we created the NHS and all manner of other societal structures shortly thereafter and also contributed to the rebuild and defence of Western Europe, especially Germany. The economy did well post WW2 because the state spent money. It invested in people and infrastructure at a time when “there was no money left”. That’s the only way to kick start economies not cutting everything to the bone. See also FDR’s New Deal and the Great Depression. Correct.
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Post by tvor on Jul 24, 2024 12:13:49 GMT
View AttachmentI was sent this link by another Yellowboard member last night. I think it’s well worth sharing. It’s quite an interesting short video with Steven Barrett speaking particularly well. Not sure where they found the other clown. And for me it’s a pleasant walk out in the sun to Poynton so if you have any questions or polite comments please feel free to reply but don’t expect an immediate Nik type response [ i.e within 60 seconds ]. Hopefully news of the Touray replacement signing, and a taxi being ordered for sicknote whilst I’m out. Enjoy I see you've taken suedehead 's post on board. I've not read it, so very difficult to take anything onboard.
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Post by Nik on Jul 24, 2024 12:14:57 GMT
I see you've taken suedehead 's post on board. I've not read it, so very difficult to take anything onboard. It'd probably be an idea to read it then, in addition to the more recent one.
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Post by bigmartin on Jul 24, 2024 12:21:24 GMT
I see you've taken suedehead 's post on board. I've not read it, so very difficult to take anything onboard. On the top tab, under "Profile" it tells you when someone's responded directly to you.
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Post by Count de Stockport on Jul 24, 2024 12:23:39 GMT
I see you've taken suedehead 's post on board. I've chosen not to read it, so very difficult to take anything onboard. Fixed it for you
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