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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 13:29:24 GMT
Please correct me if I’m wrong, as I genuinely want to know. From what I’ve read, Mark Stott is a conservative donor, and a City fan (admittedly a minor point), who made his money through the emerging Dubai Property market.
I’d like to know more about him. For example, did he simply purchase the properties in Dubai or did he organise projects from the ground up? Where does he stand on the modern slavery situation in Dubai, and was his fortune built (albeit legitimately) on the back of exploited migrant workers? If so, would this not put us on shaky ground should we ever seek to criticise City again? I just think we should be asking more questions, as I wouldn’t like us to bury our heads in the sand like others are content with doing when the money rolls in.
To his credit, in that initial interview I thought he came across really well, and said all the right things with regards to Gannon, and EP and the like. At the same time, if true that he’s a tory donor, then I’m not sure the generous recent donation to the NHS makes up for financially supporting the party that ultimately wants away with it. I don't care if he's got money, I find it difficult to be even mildly excited about the guy. I’m also not a fan of making a video saying ‘there’s no new owners here’ and then changing our logo without consultation… but that couldn’t be a smaller issue… Personally, I just don’t trust the bloke, and never will.
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Post by HTC on Jul 13, 2020 13:35:05 GMT
Didn't we do the faux surprise that a wealthy Cheshire businessman was a Tory the other week?
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Post by Sina on Jul 13, 2020 13:49:26 GMT
So a guy you don't know and admittedly, you have no knowledge of his personal political views and his business other than heresay, you don't trust?
Come on, when did he sack you?
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Post by desmond on Jul 13, 2020 13:50:59 GMT
Please correct me if I’m wrong, as I genuinely want to know. From what I’ve read, Mark Stott is a conservative donor, and a City fan (admittedly a minor point), who made his money through the emerging Dubai Property market. I’d like to know more about him. For example, did he simply purchase the properties in Dubai or did he organise projects from the ground up? Where does he stand on the modern slavery situation in Dubai, and was his fortune built (albeit legitimately) on the back of exploited migrant workers? If so, would this not put us on shaky ground should we ever seek to criticise City again? I just think we should be asking more questions, as I wouldn’t like us to bury our heads in the sand like others are content with doing when the money rolls in. To his credit, in that initial interview I thought he came across really well, and said all the right things with regards to Gannon, and EP and the like. At the same time, if true that he’s a tory donor, then I’m not sure the generous recent donation to the NHS makes up for financially supporting the party that ultimately wants away with it. I don't care if he's got money, I find it difficult to be even mildly excited about the guy. I’m also not a fan of making a video saying ‘there’s no new owners here’ and then changing our logo without consultation… but that couldn’t be a smaller issue… Personally, I just don’t trust the bloke, and never will. I can’t see an agenda in your post but I sense that you have one. Especially as you’re a newbie and Stotts situation has been discussed before.
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Post by bigmartin on Jul 13, 2020 13:54:37 GMT
Please correct me if I’m wrong, as I genuinely want to know. From what I’ve read, Mark Stott is a conservative donor, and a City fan (admittedly a minor point), who made his money through the emerging Dubai Property market. I’d like to know more about him. For example, did he simply purchase the properties in Dubai or did he organise projects from the ground up? Where does he stand on the modern slavery situation in Dubai, and was his fortune built (albeit legitimately) on the back of exploited migrant workers? If so, would this not put us on shaky ground should we ever seek to criticise City again? I just think we should be asking more questions, as I wouldn’t like us to bury our heads in the sand like others are content with doing when the money rolls in. To his credit, in that initial interview I thought he came across really well, and said all the right things with regards to Gannon, and EP and the like. At the same time, if true that he’s a tory donor, then I’m not sure the generous recent donation to the NHS makes up for financially supporting the party that ultimately wants away with it. I don't care if he's got money, I find it difficult to be even mildly excited about the guy. I’m also not a fan of making a video saying ‘there’s no new owners here’ and then changing our logo without consultation… but that couldn’t be a smaller issue… Personally, I just don’t trust the bloke, and never will. I baulk at the idea of him being a Tory because I don't like the fact that people vote Tory. However, there's little point really even seeking the answer to your questions given that "you don't trust him and never will". For me, the Jury's out. I rarely get particularly giddy about stuff anymore and I'm not giddy about the new ownership. But thus far things look good.
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Post by vicar on Jul 13, 2020 13:58:01 GMT
Please correct me if I’m wrong, as I genuinely want to know. From what I’ve read, Mark Stott is a conservative donor, and a City fan (admittedly a minor point), who made his money through the emerging Dubai Property market. I’d like to know more about him. For example, did he simply purchase the properties in Dubai or did he organise projects from the ground up? Where does he stand on the modern slavery situation in Dubai, and was his fortune built (albeit legitimately) on the back of exploited migrant workers? If so, would this not put us on shaky ground should we ever seek to criticise City again? I just think we should be asking more questions, as I wouldn’t like us to bury our heads in the sand like others are content with doing when the money rolls in. To his credit, in that initial interview I thought he came across really well, and said all the right things with regards to Gannon, and EP and the like. At the same time, if true that he’s a tory donor, then I’m not sure the generous recent donation to the NHS makes up for financially supporting the party that ultimately wants away with it. I don't care if he's got money, I find it difficult to be even mildly excited about the guy. I’m also not a fan of making a video saying ‘there’s no new owners here’ and then changing our logo without consultation… but that couldn’t be a smaller issue… Personally, I just don’t trust the bloke, and never will. Before suggesting someone exploits migrant workers I'd advise doing some research, I'm as anti Tory as anyone but I've got friends who vote Tory and they just don't see things the way I do, as for not trusting him? That's fair enough but to say you never will is a bit odd.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 13:58:59 GMT
Who cares if he is a tory.
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Post by Mozzer on Jul 13, 2020 14:12:15 GMT
Scepticism is the correct stance in my view, though not perhaps for all the same reasons. I'm not bothered that he's a Tory. Lots of people are Tories (even more vote for them than will tell you they did too, so as least an open Tory is honest about it) and it does not make them inherently bad people. In the context of football club ownership you are not going to find a phalanx of Trotskyists lining up to take over clubs. So that's just something about him - meh.
But questions about his wealth are reasonable, although in the absence of anything damning about its source, my concerns are more about how sustainable it is in itself and how sustainable the financial plan for the club is.
I could wonder about the City stuff - some of the similarities, the lack of our City matches/goals shown during lockdown. I worry it makes me look petty. But it's also odd. I've seen Tony Dinning score a header against Darlington on County Twitter recently, but I haven't seen him score a penalty at Maine Road. All those games they showed 'as live' and they couldn't find space for even one of those 3 league wins, each one of which has pretty much legendary status amongst County fans for their own reasons. You start to wonder what that's about. But as I can't say what it's about, it just goes in the 'Hmmm' pile for now.
Anyway, as I've previously said, there are some positive signs too, so I'm not suggesting it's all bad. But there's enough that I don't think people should be getting carried away either. It's still a case of wait and see.
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Post by philtheglass on Jul 13, 2020 14:13:38 GMT
Whatever his political opinions, he's taken the decision to invest money, time & effort in our club when many weren't willing to. How he came by his wealth is down to his conscience, but the club & the town have had a real boost since he arrived.
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Post by vicar on Jul 13, 2020 14:18:26 GMT
I always find it suspicious when a new poster comes along with posts like this, it makes me wonder if someone is just trying to destabilise us.
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Post by sk5countyfan on Jul 13, 2020 14:25:01 GMT
Six seasons in part-time regional football.relegation after relegation.administration.and your worried about changing a badge
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Post by Mozzer on Jul 13, 2020 14:30:47 GMT
Six seasons in part-time regional football.relegation after relegation.administration.and your worried about changing a badge Can you link to that message?
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Post by bobsplash on Jul 13, 2020 14:38:34 GMT
Please correct me if I’m wrong, as I genuinely want to know. From what I’ve read, Mark Stott is a conservative donor, and a City fan (admittedly a minor point), who made his money through the emerging Dubai Property market. I’d like to know more about him. For example, did he simply purchase the properties in Dubai or did he organise projects from the ground up? Where does he stand on the modern slavery situation in Dubai, and was his fortune built (albeit legitimately) on the back of exploited migrant workers? If so, would this not put us on shaky ground should we ever seek to criticise City again? I just think we should be asking more questions, as I wouldn’t like us to bury our heads in the sand like others are content with doing when the money rolls in. To his credit, in that initial interview I thought he came across really well, and said all the right things with regards to Gannon, and EP and the like. At the same time, if true that he’s a tory donor, then I’m not sure the generous recent donation to the NHS makes up for financially supporting the party that ultimately wants away with it. I don't care if he's got money, I find it difficult to be even mildly excited about the guy. I’m also not a fan of making a video saying ‘there’s no new owners here’ and then changing our logo without consultation… but that couldn’t be a smaller issue… Personally, I just don’t trust the bloke, and never will. Agreed, bring back Lord Snape.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 14:58:34 GMT
Controversial first post Mr Goose. What you having for your tea?
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Post by popeye on Jul 13, 2020 15:06:05 GMT
Please correct me if I’m wrong, as I genuinely want to know. From what I’ve read, Mark Stott is a conservative donor, and a City fan (admittedly a minor point), who made his money through the emerging Dubai Property market. I’d like to know more about him. For example, did he simply purchase the properties in Dubai or did he organise projects from the ground up? Where does he stand on the modern slavery situation in Dubai, and was his fortune built (albeit legitimately) on the back of exploited migrant workers? If so, would this not put us on shaky ground should we ever seek to criticise City again? I just think we should be asking more questions, as I wouldn’t like us to bury our heads in the sand like others are content with doing when the money rolls in. To his credit, in that initial interview I thought he came across really well, and said all the right things with regards to Gannon, and EP and the like. At the same time, if true that he’s a tory donor, then I’m not sure the generous recent donation to the NHS makes up for financially supporting the party that ultimately wants away with it. I don't care if he's got money, I find it difficult to be even mildly excited about the guy. I’m also not a fan of making a video saying ‘there’s no new owners here’ and then changing our logo without consultation… but that couldn’t be a smaller issue… Personally, I just don’t trust the bloke, and never will. You obviously are excited about him, why else would you go to the effort of posting your political rant about him?
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