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Post by slomasscfc on Jul 25, 2024 9:12:36 GMT
Powell was OK and got better as season went on, but just didn't feel like the right fit and profile to hand out probably the best contract the club has ever signed upto
He wasn't a surefire bet in terms of his output and I stated from day one I didn't like the deal
Is he a bad player no, can he still play a part yes if he wants it bad enough but that is the problem I don't see the hunger and desire there for us ever to see the best of him and get a consistent output from
There would been much better options available be it another player or even two players we could got for the money that could provide much more than the sum of the parts Powell has thus far
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Post by Philcounty on Jul 25, 2024 9:27:02 GMT
Powell has done next to piss all. And looked disinterested since he’s been here. For the money he’s on if his only real highlight is a pass at Grimsby away then f*ck him off. Of course he’s the type of player that will probably choose to see out his way too expensive deal by not playing. We still need some experience and another forward. His wages free up that if we can f*ck him off. Also could pay for Barry. Might not be any truth in the rumours but look at what Madden has done for us compared to him and there’s no contest. Never liked him. If he does stay he needs to do an awful lot for us to justify his daft wage. Disinterested? Jesus. 🤦🏻♂️ If the best presser at our club was uninterested, I'm not sure how we managed to win the league.
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Post by ricky on Jul 25, 2024 9:35:23 GMT
Powell has done next to piss all. And looked disinterested since he’s been here. For the money he’s on if his only real highlight is a pass at Grimsby away then f*ck him off. Of course he’s the type of player that will probably choose to see out his way too expensive deal by not playing. We still need some experience and another forward. His wages free up that if we can f*ck him off. Also could pay for Barry. Might not be any truth in the rumours but look at what Madden has done for us compared to him and there’s no contest. Never liked him. If he does stay he needs to do an awful lot for us to justify his daft wage. its near impossible to get rid of him this summer unless he takes a massive pay cut. If hes on dead on 8k a week, the club still owe him 832k of which he will happily take that and thats before bonuses which probably add another 250k to 500k. No club in championship will think hes good enough, we shouldn't be selling to league 1 (no one will want him that can afford him) and no one in league 2 can afford him. Only way is to pay up the rest of his contract or an agreed % of it but we would still be paying him alot of money. What is your source for these figures? I’m not saying they are wrong but the internet is notorious for people saying things with no evidence and then they become accepted as the truth.
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Post by scfc29 on Jul 25, 2024 9:36:55 GMT
Disinterested? Jesus. 🤦🏻♂️ If the best presser at our club was disinterested, I'm not sure how we managed to win the league. Exactly. Got no problem with people discussing his value for money or his performance levels. He rightfully came with huge expectations and he didn’t meet the high standards we expected from him last year. That doesn’t mean that he didn’t contribute (he did, fairly significantly) and it doesn’t mean he’s not interested. He showed that consistently in his run of appearances after Christmas. As I said earlier, people had made their minds up on Powell after his first knock in September. Original poster even said ‘I never liked him’ ffs.
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Post by timberwolf on Jul 25, 2024 9:40:13 GMT
Disinterested? Jesus. 🤦🏻♂️ If the best presser at our club was disinterested, I'm not sure how we managed to win the league. We did not win the league dispite powell or due to him by a long way. He only helped us in a very small way compared to others which clearly showed when he was not in the side.
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Post by herbiedumplings on Jul 25, 2024 9:42:19 GMT
Disinterested? Jesus. 🤦🏻♂️ I think Powell has put shifts in and wouldn’t fault his effort over the second half of the season, but his quality and effect on games has been in shorter supply than we are entitled to expect given his previous clubs, reputation and reported cost. Let’s hope he steps up to the plate this season. I think that’s fair. I remember seeing a few passes and the odd tackle from him that were worth the entry fee just on their own, but you could have said the same about John Rooney back in the day. (OK, maybe not the tackles! ) His availability and application definitely improved after Christmas, so let’s see how he goes on this season…
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Post by palmersears on Jul 25, 2024 10:10:19 GMT
Not every player can have an outstanding season year on year, Powell included. But the threshold for what is an acceptable return is higher for him because of A) his potential ability and B) the wage he is receiving. The latter is not his fault (nobody in their right mind is going to ask for less money so the weight of expectation is lower), but as fans you inevitably factor it in to your assessment of his performances.
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Post by albybeliever on Jul 25, 2024 10:21:43 GMT
Powell has done next to piss all. And looked disinterested since he’s been here. For the money he’s on if his only real highlight is a pass at Grimsby away then f*ck him off. Of course he’s the type of player that will probably choose to see out his way too expensive deal by not playing. We still need some experience and another forward. His wages free up that if we can f*ck him off. Also could pay for Barry. Might not be any truth in the rumours but look at what Madden has done for us compared to him and there’s no contest. Never liked him. If he does stay he needs to do an awful lot for us to justify his daft wage. Disinterested? Jesus. 🤦🏻♂️ I know, I know - what’s the problem with Powell being unbiased?
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Post by suedehead on Jul 25, 2024 10:38:19 GMT
I doubt many on here know exactly when things will be announced. Some may jump the gun and predict it will be today based on Sam Byrne tweeting, which is often the pre cursor to a signing announcement. All will be revealed in time. Your man from Palace was going to be announced yesterday, 100%. I suspect the ticket farce meant we reconsidered what we put out there yesterday.
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Post by popeye on Jul 25, 2024 10:57:06 GMT
I doubt many on here know exactly when things will be announced. Some may jump the gun and predict it will be today based on Sam Byrne tweeting, which is often the pre cursor to a signing announcement. All will be revealed in time. Your man from Palace was going to be announced yesterday, 100%. I suspect the ticket farce meant we reconsidered what we put out there yesterday. This site originally posted that it was between us, Wigan and Pisa. They now think we will get him londonnewsonline.co.uk/sport/stockport-close-on-loan-deal-for-crystal-palace-defender/
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Post by albybeliever on Jul 25, 2024 11:13:15 GMT
Disinterested? Jesus. 🤦🏻♂️ I know, I know - what’s the problem with Powell being unbiased? Can't believe this isn't getting pickup. You're all there for the could've/could have flaming of MatGPT, but suddenly I get snarky about disinterested/uninterested and I'm the grammar pedant. Traitors. Edit: Damn, forgot the autocorrect for Mat's sin - you know what I'm trying to say!
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Post by stantheman on Jul 25, 2024 12:18:31 GMT
It's interesting to see how different people's perceptions can be.
Here's my two penneth on Powell.
He's not lazy or lacks application. In fact, I'm sure I read he had the highest tackles per 90mins than anyone in the squad.
On the ball, he's been a step or two ahead of the rest of our team all season long. Which is why you'll see him playing passes where he expects a team mate to be, which they aren't which then results in giving the ball away.
Players who are used to playing at a higher level often look poorer in lower leagues due to the lower standard of the players around them.
I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that with better players around Powell this season, he'll look better to the untrained eye. He won't be doing anything different, the difference will be the players around him will be closer to the level he operates at so more of his work will be rewarded.
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Post by wnm on Jul 25, 2024 12:36:05 GMT
It's interesting to see how different people's perceptions can be. Here's my two penneth on Powell. He's not lazy or lacks application. In fact, I'm sure I read he had the highest tackles per 90mins than anyone in the squad. On the ball, he's been a step or two ahead of the rest of our team all season long. Which is why you'll see him playing passes where he expects a team mate to be, which they aren't which then results in giving the ball away. Players who are used to playing at a higher level often look poorer in lower leagues due to the lower standard of the players around them. I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that with better players around Powell this season, he'll look better to the untrained eye. He won't be doing anything different, the difference will be the players around him will be closer to the level he operates at so more of his work will be rewarded. We’ve basically found ourselves a Camps/Powel hybrid in Bate with extra mobility. Not really sure where he’s going to fit,
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Post by mat1scfc on Jul 25, 2024 12:38:48 GMT
It's interesting to see how different people's perceptions can be. Here's my two penneth on Powell. He's not lazy or lacks application. In fact, I'm sure I read he had the highest tackles per 90mins than anyone in the squad. On the ball, he's been a step or two ahead of the rest of our team all season long. Which is why you'll see him playing passes where he expects a team mate to be, which they aren't which then results in giving the ball away. Players who are used to playing at a higher level often look poorer in lower leagues due to the lower standard of the players around them. I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that with better players around Powell this season, he'll look better to the untrained eye. He won't be doing anything different, the difference will be the players around him will be closer to the level he operates at so more of his work will be rewarded. We’ve basically found ourselves a Camps/Powel hybrid in Bate with extra mobility. Not really sure where he’s going to fit, best suited roughly Gk Rb,cb,cb,lb Mingi,bate Fevrier, powell,diamond St
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Post by suedehead on Jul 25, 2024 12:40:53 GMT
It's interesting to see how different people's perceptions can be. Here's my two penneth on Powell. He's not lazy or lacks application. In fact, I'm sure I read he had the highest tackles per 90mins than anyone in the squad. On the ball, he's been a step or two ahead of the rest of our team all season long. Which is why you'll see him playing passes where he expects a team mate to be, which they aren't which then results in giving the ball away. Players who are used to playing at a higher level often look poorer in lower leagues due to the lower standard of the players around them. I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that with better players around Powell this season, he'll look better to the untrained eye. He won't be doing anything different, the difference will be the players around him will be closer to the level he operates at so more of his work will be rewarded. Maybe. But if he's that good, and I don't doubt he's got the ability, he should be able to adapt his game a bit and play a pass where a team mate actually is, not where he imagines one to be and hoofs the ball out/loses possession. It's on him as an individual to adapt, rather than the rest of the team flex around him.
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