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Post by timberwolf on Oct 27, 2024 12:27:13 GMT
First comment totally true. The second about mid table in non league i,d say no. Do not think anybody was happy until we started to make the PO because nobody wanted to be playing at that level. Before the money came in I felt more patient and trusted the process Same here. Everything was about the present and not about a future plan or wish that might or might not happen. You might need a long term future plan but not to the extent of forgetting what the present has to offer. |
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Post by hikingboots on Oct 27, 2024 12:32:42 GMT
Before the money came in I felt more patient and trusted the process Same here. Everything was about the present and not about a future plan or wish that might or might not happen. You might need a long term future plan but not to the extent of forgetting what the present has to offer. Yes smell the roses . I wish they hadn’t said the Championship in 7 years thing…many will disagree though |
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Post by timberwolf on Oct 27, 2024 12:36:13 GMT
That’s how we used to play but we have lost our identity. I am a pessimist but I look for the bottom teams to lose at the moment. I don’t want us to start getting dragged into a relegation battle…last time were sort of mid table was in the NL first season. It seemed we were doing well at the time. Ditto. I worry about four down. We're just not very good at all right now. Beggar's belief really. I'd take a hand off now for a mid table season of consolidation and then a bit of a reckoning come the end of the season with this group of players. Not bothered about using the R word because i just cannot see it happening. Our players are too good for that and so is our manager. The big question though is are some good enough to push us on as a club or just as a permanent league 1 mid table outfit thats a bit better than shrewsbury. Some might say we,ll be better once MSH, Rydel and the short term injured come back. Thing is they are more likely to change places with the new injured like possibly Powell for starters. At our best we could still make the bottom of the PO and at worse a 16th to 20th club in the league. |
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Post by timberwolf on Oct 27, 2024 12:38:02 GMT
Same here. Everything was about the present and not about a future plan or wish that might or might not happen. You might need a long term future plan but not to the extent of forgetting what the present has to offer. Yes smell the roses . I wish they hadn’t said the Championship in 7 years thing…many will disagree though Something that i pretend was never said or think about until others bring it up. Was like 2022 on the back of a fylde shirt for me. |
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Post by hikingboots on Oct 27, 2024 12:44:04 GMT
Ditto. I worry about four down. We're just not very good at all right now. Beggar's belief really. I'd take a hand off now for a mid table season of consolidation and then a bit of a reckoning come the end of the season with this group of players. Not bothered about using the R word because i just cannot see it happening. Our players are too good for that and so is our manager. The big question though is are some good enough to push us on as a club or just as a permanent league 1 mid table outfit thats a bit better than shrewsbury. Some might say we,ll be better once MSH, Rydel and the short term injured come back. Thing is they are more likely to change places with the new injured like possibly Powell for starters. At our best we could still make the bottom of the PO and at worse a 16th to 20th club in the league. I was thinking yesterday what a loss Rydel MSH and Knoyle have been. The first two were our most creative players. They added so much energy to attacks |
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Post by mat1scfc on Oct 27, 2024 12:56:32 GMT
Not bothered about using the R word because i just cannot see it happening. Our players are too good for that and so is our manager. The big question though is are some good enough to push us on as a club or just as a permanent league 1 mid table outfit thats a bit better than shrewsbury. Some might say we,ll be better once MSH, Rydel and the short term injured come back. Thing is they are more likely to change places with the new injured like possibly Powell for starters. At our best we could still make the bottom of the PO and at worse a 16th to 20th club in the league. I was thinking yesterday what a loss Rydel MSH and Knoyle have been. The first two were our most creative players. They added so much energy to attacks the thing is, when they finnally get back in the next 2 to 3 weeks hopefully. Knoyles pre season was cut short but msh and rydel didn't have one and that will be a huge miss for both of them and it could take them a few weeks to properly get going IF they get going |
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Post by HTC on Oct 27, 2024 13:00:04 GMT
Always felt there was a good chance this would be a lower mid table sort of season. We’ve completely changed strategy from the top 2 budget / pay decent, but ageing players from league 1/2 plan that’s got us here to something more based around player development, with a view to a bit more sustainability.
If all the younger players clicked and kicked on immediately, the top end of the league wasn’t out of the question, but a bit of consolidation was probably to be expected.
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Post by timberwolf on Oct 27, 2024 13:03:45 GMT
I was thinking yesterday what a loss Rydel MSH and Knoyle have been. The first two were our most creative players. They added so much energy to attacks the thing is, when they finnally get back in the next 2 to 3 weeks hopefully. Knoyles pre season was cut short but msh and rydel didn't have one and that will be a huge miss for both of them and it could take them a few weeks to properly get going IF they get going MSH always looks up to speed once he is back. Suppose its a case of him being more used to making come backs after an injury than others who are going through something new in their careers. Knoyle never looked bad after being out but we have no clue which Rydel we,ll see back. The influential one or the one you never realised was playing. |
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Post by timberwolf on Oct 27, 2024 13:17:15 GMT
Always felt there was a good chance this would be a lower mid table sort of season. We’ve completely changed strategy from the top 2 budget / pay decent, but ageing players from league 1/2 plan that’s got us here to something more based around player development, with a view to a bit more sustainability. If all the younger players clicked and kicked on immediately, the top end of the league wasn’t out of the question, but a bit of consolidation was probably to be expected. One thing more is the old time strategy of the club is being changed. Take out 2008 as we got help from loan players but the rest of our promotions from 1967 onwards have had many experianced players in the side. Really how many young players of ours have clicked and gone on to better things over the years. If say 3 of our younger players did click and the club gained some good money out of them we,d have to spend it to replace these as we have not got some long line of youngsters waiting in the wings to replace them. We are a selling club but a buying one as well unlike a few others who need to sell to just survive. Feel we,d need to be playing fantastic winning football to attract a few thousand extra fans without a name player signing who can still do the business. Afraid signings from the likes of colchester aint going to do it for many. |
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Post by hikingboots on Oct 27, 2024 13:20:06 GMT
I was thinking yesterday what a loss Rydel MSH and Knoyle have been. The first two were our most creative players. They added so much energy to attacks the thing is, when they finnally get back in the next 2 to 3 weeks hopefully. Knoyles pre season was cut short but msh and rydel didn't have one and that will be a huge miss for both of them and it could take them a few weeks to properly get going IF they get going [br Sadly it’s a big if |
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Post by bigmartin on Oct 27, 2024 15:27:43 GMT
Ditto. I worry about four down. We're just not very good at all right now. Beggar's belief really. I'd take a hand off now for a mid table season of consolidation and then a bit of a reckoning come the end of the season with this group of players. Not bothered about using the R word because i just cannot see it happening. Our players are too good for that and so is our manager. The big question though is are some good enough to push us on as a club or just as a permanent league 1 mid table outfit thats a bit better than shrewsbury. Some might say we,ll be better once MSH, Rydel and the short term injured come back. Thing is they are more likely to change places with the new injured like possibly Powell for starters. At our best we could still make the bottom of the PO and at worse a 16th to 20th club in the league. Seriously. The number of times I've heard that sentence about County being too good for relegation as we've toppled down the league pyramid. You ought to know better ! That said. i'm half with you. I think it would be a huge shock for us to end bottom half in fact. But, after a good start, we're now actually really dogshit. And there's no getting away from that. Almost as worrying though, DC lost the plot that last game. He panicked. I hope he doesn't make a habit of it. I don't think he will mind. |
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Post by The Real Exile on Oct 27, 2024 15:36:12 GMT
Not bothered about using the R word because i just cannot see it happening. Our players are too good for that and so is our manager. The big question though is are some good enough to push us on as a club or just as a permanent league 1 mid table outfit thats a bit better than shrewsbury. Some might say we,ll be better once MSH, Rydel and the short term injured come back. Thing is they are more likely to change places with the new injured like possibly Powell for starters. At our best we could still make the bottom of the PO and at worse a 16th to 20th club in the league. Seriously. The number of times I've heard that sentence about County being too good for relegation as we've toppled down the league pyramid. You ought to know better ! That said. i'm half with you. I think it would be a huge shock for us to end bottom half in fact. But, after a good start, we're now actually really dogshit. And there's no getting away from that. Almost as worrying though, DC lost the plot that last game. He panicked. I hope he doesn't make a habit of it. I don't think he will mind. Did smell of panic subbing the keeper at half time, should have just put Ben in for the next game. |
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Post by fenedgeexile on Oct 27, 2024 15:45:00 GMT
Not bothered about using the R word because i just cannot see it happening. Our players are too good for that and so is our manager. The big question though is are some good enough to push us on as a club or just as a permanent league 1 mid table outfit thats a bit better than shrewsbury. Some might say we,ll be better once MSH, Rydel and the short term injured come back. Thing is they are more likely to change places with the new injured like possibly Powell for starters. At our best we could still make the bottom of the PO and at worse a 16th to 20th club in the league. Seriously. The number of times I've heard that sentence about County being too good for relegation as we've toppled down the league pyramid. You ought to know better ! That said. i'm half with you. I think it would be a huge shock for us to end bottom half in fact. But, after a good start, we're now actually really dogshit. And there's no getting away from that. Almost as worrying though, DC lost the plot that last game. He panicked. I hope he doesn't make a habit of it. I don't think he will mind. We are now a quarter of the way through the season and have averaged exactly 1.5 points per game. If we maintain the same form we should finish on around 69 points. That would be top half of the table, but not good enough for the play offs. However, over the last 10 games we have only averaged 1.2 points per game. Maintain that form (two wins, six draws, two losses) and we finish with around 59 points, which would be comfortably clear of relegation in mid table. We could do with a couple of wins to steady the nerves though! |
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Post by bigmartin on Oct 27, 2024 15:45:39 GMT
Seriously. The number of times I've heard that sentence about County being too good for relegation as we've toppled down the league pyramid. You ought to know better ! That said. i'm half with you. I think it would be a huge shock for us to end bottom half in fact. But, after a good start, we're now actually really dogshit. And there's no getting away from that. Almost as worrying though, DC lost the plot that last game. He panicked. I hope he doesn't make a habit of it. I don't think he will mind. Did smell of panic subbing the keeper at half time, should have just put Ben in for the next game. Unconscionably terrible decision I thought. Potentially career (here) ending. No idea why he did it. He's not really ever displayed a capacity for losing the plot like that in the past. Very strange. |
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Post by bigmartin on Oct 27, 2024 15:47:27 GMT
Seriously. The number of times I've heard that sentence about County being too good for relegation as we've toppled down the league pyramid. You ought to know better ! That said. i'm half with you. I think it would be a huge shock for us to end bottom half in fact. But, after a good start, we're now actually really dogshit. And there's no getting away from that. Almost as worrying though, DC lost the plot that last game. He panicked. I hope he doesn't make a habit of it. I don't think he will mind. We are now a quarter of the way through the season and have averaged exactly 1.5 points per game. If we maintain the same form we should finish on around 69 points. That would be top half of the table, but not good enough for the play offs. However, over the last 10 games we have only averaged 1.2 points per game. Maintain that form (two wins, six draws, two losses) and we finish with around 59 points, which would be comfortably clear of relegation in mid table. We could do with a couple of wins to steady the nerves though! Appreciate this, but the kind of stats you've shown above do not incorporate momentum. And I think momentum's collapsing. Hope I'm wrong. I do have a bit of history of being a wet in all truth so I'm sure you optimists are correct and I'm just being a bit of a Mary Ellen. |
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