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Post by Durango95 on Oct 29, 2022 17:04:01 GMT
A friend of mine is a Bury fan and a lot looked at them as a Phoenix club so didn’t like them. As an outsider a merger looked more sensible as they’d be a couple of years ahead with a settled squad, move back to the ground and have a fair lump sum backing going forward.
But some felt they should start again as a continuation of Bury FC. Anyone know what league they’ll have to start in next season?
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Oct 29, 2022 20:01:08 GMT
Post by atmosphere on Oct 29, 2022 20:01:08 GMT
Luckily for them they probably won’t have the luxury of choice of NL or FL. Hereford, Chester & Darlo have all struggled in NLN, I think Bury & Macclesfield will also be in for a rude awakening when they get there. I think Macc will get there quickly and probably do well. Different set up to the others you've mentioned. They've actually got money and the structure they've set up at that club is way above their level. That will make them competitive at NLN (the squad they've got now would probably be competitive to a degree). You're right about Macc's backing.
Funnily enough they played in the FA Trophy today against Guiseley who are one division above and were beaten 2-0 at home despite them probably having easily the best Northern budget outside a couple in the NLN. Their manager has been sacked this evening. Probably expecting more considering they have League standard wages.
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Oct 30, 2022 7:53:42 GMT
Post by TC on Oct 30, 2022 7:53:42 GMT
I think Macc will get there quickly and probably do well. Different set up to the others you've mentioned. They've actually got money and the structure they've set up at that club is way above their level. That will make them competitive at NLN (the squad they've got now would probably be competitive to a degree). You're right about Macc's backing.
Funnily enough they played in the FA Trophy today against Guiseley who are one division above and were beaten 2-0 at home despite them probably having easily the best Northern budget outside a couple in the NLN. Their manager has been sacked this evening. Probably expecting more considering they have League standard wages.
Not many managers get sacked when their club is top of the league but expectations are very high at Macc and recent defeats have not gone down well. I never thought that Whittaker and Savage were a great fit anyway.
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Oct 30, 2022 8:32:33 GMT
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Post by Radcliffe Hatter on Oct 30, 2022 8:32:33 GMT
A friend of mine is a Bury fan and a lot looked at them as a Phoenix club so didn’t like them. As an outsider a merger looked more sensible as they’d be a couple of years ahead with a settled squad, move back to the ground and have a fair lump sum backing going forward. But some felt they should start again as a continuation of Bury FC. Anyone know what league they’ll have to start in next season? Guy I work with is a Bury fan and when I was speaking to him last week he reckons they'd be starting at "park league" level. That is way down from the division 10 that AFC are currently at. Seems absolutely absurd that, in the vote, under 300 people can override the wishes of 1500.
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Oct 30, 2022 9:12:25 GMT
Post by scfc73 on Oct 30, 2022 9:12:25 GMT
You're right about Macc's backing.
Funnily enough they played in the FA Trophy today against Guiseley who are one division above and were beaten 2-0 at home despite them probably having easily the best Northern budget outside a couple in the NLN. Their manager has been sacked this evening. Probably expecting more considering they have League standard wages.
Not many managers get sacked when their club is top of the league but expectations are very high at Macc and recent defeats have not gone down well. I never thought that Whittaker and Savage were a great fit anyway. That's an odd one, They've lost cup games but are walking the league again & surely that's the priority on their part, to get up the leagues as quickly as possible? Whittaker's a bit of a legend at Macc, is it another 'culture' sacking along the lines of Jimbo?
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Oct 30, 2022 9:20:51 GMT
Post by timberwolf on Oct 30, 2022 9:20:51 GMT
A friend of mine is a Bury fan and a lot looked at them as a Phoenix club so didn’t like them. As an outsider a merger looked more sensible as they’d be a couple of years ahead with a settled squad, move back to the ground and have a fair lump sum backing going forward. But some felt they should start again as a continuation of Bury FC. Anyone know what league they’ll have to start in next season? Surely the best option would be for the phoenix club to go back to gigg lane and play. AFC Bury is still Bury like AFC Wimbledon are now the true Wimbledon. Its like as if some shakers have some sort of suicide pact going on amongst them where the club is concerned.
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Oct 30, 2022 9:56:03 GMT
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Post by vicar on Oct 30, 2022 9:56:03 GMT
Not many managers get sacked when their club is top of the league but expectations are very high at Macc and recent defeats have not gone down well. I never thought that Whittaker and Savage were a great fit anyway. That's an odd one, They've lost cup games but are walking the league again & surely that's the priority on their part, to get up the leagues as quickly as possible? Whittaker's a bit of a legend at Macc, is it another 'culture' sacking along the lines of Jimbo? They really need that cup revenue, with the budget they have it's a given that they walk the league, they're getting good crowds but they go nowhere near covering the wage bill and other running costs. My mate goes every week, he bought a ST even though he's a City fan, he said that all the players are playing a couple of levels below their true level.
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Oct 30, 2022 11:30:06 GMT
Post by atmosphere on Oct 30, 2022 11:30:06 GMT
They should be walking that division, they've got like Nicky Maynard, Luke Murphy, Neil Danns, a promising Brazillian goalkeeper on loan from Liverpool etc playing for them. Even Alex Curran and Dan Cowan who we know are far too good for the 8th tier of English Football. And they're just the famous ones and ones we know because they used to play for us.
They're top but they aren't walking it, they lost to Northwich in the league last week. They lost to Coalville in the FA Cup qual rounds and they've lost to Guiseley yesterday in the Trophy. Guiseley are 7th tier, a step above but I bet Macc's wage bill is massive compared to theirs. Outisde investment plus good crowds. A 0-2 home defeat to them is underwhelming for them, I wasn't that shocked to see that Whittaker sacked.
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Dec 21, 2022 8:34:20 GMT
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Dec 21, 2022 8:37:27 GMT
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Post by Barmy Blue Army on Dec 21, 2022 8:37:27 GMT
Think you want www.buryfcss.co.uk/bfcss-statement-20-12-22/ but: Bury Football Club Supporters’ Society Update Following the vote we have taken time to assess the result and the surveys that were undertaken post-vote to get a greater understanding of your thoughts. What is apparent is that the overwhelming majority of our members and Bury FC fans are in favour of an amalgamation of BFCSS and Shakers Community Society. We have met with the Bury FC Benefactors, the FSA, the Department of Levelling Up, Housing and Communities and Bury Council. We have noted what other Bury FC supporters, who aren’t members of BFCSS, are saying. And we have carefully considered what we need to do to achieve our objectives and to make sure that our football club is sustainable and successful in the long term. The town of Bury can only support the success of a single men’s football team and it is only right that this team should play at its spiritual home, Gigg Lane. We intend to do everything that we can to ensure that Bury FC is playing at Gigg Lane at the start of next season. We have considered our options and so the Board intends to seek greater collaboration with the Shakers Community Society. Since the expulsion of Bury FC from the EFL in 2019, supporters have differed in their view as to the best way to provide football in Bury. There has been division in the fan base, within which different groups have been successful. BFCSS in acquiring and maintaining the stadium and the club’s memorabilia and branding, and Shakers Community Society in establishing and managing a football team that carries the name of the town proudly. For the club to be as successful as it can possibly be we need to seek to re-unify the club’s supporters. We are therefore going to ask the Shakers Community Society whether we can work closely together to realise our vision. We propose to undertake a second vote for a merger on the same terms as voted on last time. The BFCSS board are all fully supportive of a merger and will proactively promote a yes vote. We know that you will have further questions and we will be providing further information in the coming days identifying why we are in favour and advising of all the pitfalls of not amalgamating. We will also ensure that we provide opportunities for our members to talk to us and ask questions of us and our stakeholders. We propose to hold the new vote as soon as possible so that Bury FC can commence playing at Gigg Lane from the start of the 2023/24 season in front of all its supporters, united as we were in 2019. Bury Football Club Supporters Society Board
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Dec 21, 2022 9:03:24 GMT
Post by TC on Dec 21, 2022 9:03:24 GMT
If at first you don't succeed........
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Dec 21, 2022 9:40:16 GMT
Post by timberwolf on Dec 21, 2022 9:40:16 GMT
Just wonder what the next new obsticle that will come in there way now they seem to be returning to sanity. At least the whole saga will show the next bury how not to carry on.
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Post by bristolhatter on Dec 21, 2022 10:07:16 GMT
Although I think it's sensible to merge and agree that Bury can't sustain two football clubs, it's very much 21st century politics, keep asking the same question on the same terms until you get the answer you want, then never ask again (no doubt the SNP will never permit a reunification vote if they get the vote they eventually want!).
It's not surprising this has happened though and again shows how lucky we were that despite being so close to going under, we never actually did. I have no doubt there would have been significant divisions between fans over how best to take us forward, particularly considering how fan ownership ended last time. At least with the football club "whole" there was only ever one vehicle to get behind despite lots of disagreement about who it should be run by and how. Still have to pinch myself about where we've got to!
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Dec 21, 2022 10:23:36 GMT
Post by philtheglass on Dec 21, 2022 10:23:36 GMT
Although I think it's sensible to merge and agree that Bury can't sustain two football clubs, it's very much 21st century politics, keep asking the same question on the same terms until you get the answer you want, then never ask again (no doubt the SNP will never permit a reunification vote if they get the vote they eventually want!). It's not surprising this has happened though and again shows how lucky we were that despite being so close to going under, we never actually did. I have no doubt there would have been significant divisions between fans over how best to take us forward, particularly considering how fan ownership ended last time. At least with the football club "whole" there was only ever one vehicle to get behind despite lots of disagreement about who it should be run by and how. Still have to pinch myself about where we've got to! Agree, i can have no complaints about anything thats done at the club, because we still have a club...it could have been a whole lot different.
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Dec 21, 2022 11:41:19 GMT
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Post by desmond on Dec 21, 2022 11:41:19 GMT
If at first you don't succeed........ Chase the funding 😀
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